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Thicknesses Of US Gold Coins:pre 1930

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Hi,

I am having much difficulty finding a reliable source that will contain all of the important dimensions from the US Mint (including thicknesses) of US gold coins made prior to 1930: $ 1, $ 2 1/2, $ 5, $ 10, and $ 20s.

Will someone please send me this info: diameter, specific gravity of entire coin, thickness, total weight of entire coin, weight of the coin's gold content.

I contacted the Mint directly and they were not very helpful.

thanks
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 Posted 08/18/2010  02:59 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There's some good information here:

http://www.onlygold.com/TutorialPag...nVersion.htm

Remember the data you're looking for changed over the years. Early U.S. gold will be different than coins minted after the U.S. Civil War. The figures in the link are post-Civil War. Pre- & Post-Civil War are rough time frames only. Consult the specific series for exact dates.

The Red Book of U.S. Coins is a must have for any coin collector also. It's filled with data you'll want. And remember, all published data is subject to error (like my typing! ). Always use a cross reference to verify.
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I depends on how you measure the thickness: 1)at the edge, where in most cases that is the thickest point, or 2)the minimum thickness which would be between two flat points in the field on corresponding sides of the coin.

The problem with the second alternative is that it would have to be measured with a micrometer screw gauge, and the metal jaws if the instrument would almost certainly damage the coin.

There is a third alternative and that would be with a density calculation. This would be to find the published diameter and mass of the coin. The density of the coin is rather hard to calculate, because most coins are alloyed.

You have to know the proportions by mass of the metals which make up the alloy, and the density of the pure metals which make up the alloy. The 'weighted' density of the coin can be calculated with this information.

Density equals mass divided by volume, in this case solve for volume, and then calculate the AVERAGE thickness of the coin. I have done these calculations and rarely; it may be useful in detecting a fake coin. Besides, you might have a warm fuzzy feeling inside after you have successfully calculated the thickness of your coin.

For the most part however, it can be an exercise to maintain your arithmetical ability, or more likely, just an exercise in futility!
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Most of the information you are looking for can be found in the Coin World Almanac.

Gold dollars
All have a weight of 1.672 grams +/- .016 grams
gold weight 1.5 grams Specific gravity 17.16
Type I diameter 13 mm
Type II & III 14.86 mm

quarter eagles
1796 - 1808 4.374 grams +/- .008 grams dia 20 mm SG 17.45 Au wt 4.01 grams
1821 - 1827 4.374 grams +/- .008 grams dia 18.5 mm SG 17.45 Au wt 4.01 grams
1829 - 1834 4.374 grams +/- .008 grams dia 18.2 mm SG 17.45 Au wt 4.01 grams
1834 - 1836 4.180 grams +/- .008 grams dia 18.2 mm SG 17.14 Au wt 3.76 grams
1837 - 1839 4.180 grams +/- .016 grams dia 18.2 mm SG 17.16 Au wt 3.76 grams
1840 - 1929 4.180 grams +/- .016 grams dia 17.78 mm SG 17.16 Au wt 3.76 grams

Half eagles
1796 - 1829 8.748 grams +/- .017 grams dia 25 mm SG 17.45 Au wt 8.02 grams
1829 - 1834 8.748 grams +/- .017 grams dia 22.5 mm SG 17.45 Au wt 8.02 grams
1834 - 1836 8.359 grams +/- .017 grams dia 22.5 mm SG 17.14 Au wt 7.52 grams
1837 - 1839 8.359 grams +/- .016 grams dia 22.5 mm SG 17.16 Au wt 7.52 grams
1840 - 1849 8.359 grams +/- .016 grams dia 21.54 mm SG 17.16 Au wt 7.52 grams
1849 - 1873 8.359 grams +/- .032 grams dia 21.54 mm SG 17.16 Au wt 7.52 grams
1873 - 1929 8.359 grams +/- .016 grams dia 21.54 mm SG 17.16 Au wt 7.52 grams

Eagles
1795 - 1804 17.496 gram +/- .016 grams dia 33 mm SG 17.45 Au wt 16.04 grams
1838 - 1849 16.718 gram +/- .016 grams dia 27 mm SG 17.16 Au wt 15.05 grams
1849 - 1933 16.718 gram +/- .032 grams dia 27 mm SG 17.16 Au wt 15.05 grams

Double eagles all the same
1850 - 1933 33.436 gram +/- .032 grams dia 34.29 mm SG 17.16 Au wt 30.09 grams

As sel says thickness of the blanks can be calculated with the info above but thickness of a struck coins varies depending on where it is measured and also varies depending on striking pressure. The higher the pressure the thicker the coin. The average thickness is the same as the thickness of the blank, the maximum thickness possible equals the thickness of the blank plus the sum of 1/2 the depth of the image in the obv die and 1/2 the depth of the image in the rev die. I don't have any information on how high the relief is above the field so I can't give you the maximum possible thickness of each coin.
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08/18/2010 1:36 pm
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