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Roman coin need to ID Pleas

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 Posted 08/28/2010  08:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Is this one coin or two? Need to see larger images and both sides of each coin.
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I'm thinking it's a fantasy of some kind. The portraits are modelled on those of the diademed late Roman emperors, but the inscriptions are copied off of early Imperial Roman coins - particularly the "upside-down lettering" around the portrait on the right.
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This same coin has been posted on another forum. It is a modern fake and the owner has 4 identical coins in different colours, He is reluctant to believe that it is a fake however and has now moved here to see if opinions differ.

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I was thinking the same thing, but I was hope to see better pictures to be sure.
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Hi, yes I posted this coin in other forum , but any one ID my coin, I find some person(pro)how ID my coin, and I can not posted a large photo
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echizento and Sap are two of our best members at identifying coins. If they aren't sure what it is then you can count on it being a fantasy "fake" piece that doesn't really have any resemblance to any existing coin.
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Hi, I have Quantity of coins, there is any resemblance to any existing coin,I think that is a proper model of roman coins in my region,there is roman and Numidian live(past) in my region in same time.THANKS
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You are correct the Romans were in North Africa, at Carthage. But this coin is not anything that you would find in this region. Because the images are so small I can't read any of the inscription ar tell who the bust is suppose to be of. Would still like to see larger images or if you can tell us what the inscription says. I still feel that this is not a real coin.
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Hi the Large Image:

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I am no expert. Nevertheless, this looks like no Roman coin I've ever held or seen. The depth of the image would be impossible to achieve by hammering a coin to make it, and the lettering does not match the method used by the Roman "mints", which was to run the words around the rim, with the tops of letters to the rim, except on the reverse where the mint mark was inscribed. Finally, the lettering is just too crude. This is a modern fantasy coin made with modern methods.
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Your large pictures confirm, that this is not a real coin but some type of crude casting that was made to look old probably to fool some unsuspecting tourist.
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Hi,In my region there is no tourists and no any life, I find Considerably roman coins and others Unknowns in the world, there is a Shapers was Iivopon a roman coins and broken the monuments, for simple economic Causes, it's no important
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This is not a coin that's "unknown in the world", it's a fantasy. Not a genuine ancient coin, and not old. Here are some of the reasons:

- You have several coins the same size with exactly the same design but made of different metals (the one in the OP is antiqued copper, the one in the large picture is cleaned brass). The ancient Romans never did that.

- The portraits do not match the time period of the inscriptions. "TI CLAVD CAESAR AVG" is an inscription taken from a coin of emperor Claudius I (circa 50 AD), but the portrait shows a ribbon or diadem around the head; the diadem didn't become an Imperial symbol until after 300 AD. At least, if the guy on the left of the enlarged pic is wearing a laurel wreath, it's a very, very crude imitation of one.

- The other side is presumably supposed to be Claudius' wife, Agrippina (at least, I assume so because of the AVGVSTAE inscription. However, that's not a woman's portrait - it seems to be bearded!

- The design is very, very loosely copied off of this gold aureus. However, your coin is clearly not gold. It's not an ancient counterfeit of one, either, because the workmanship is simply too crude and sloppy to fool anybody, either now or back then.
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@SAP



If I'm ever on a game show called "Call BS on the so called Ancient coin expert" I want you to be my lifeline.

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