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I was re-examining some Ike's tonight and I noticed this on a 71 D FEV DDO or is it just wear? I see what looks like notching on a couple of the letters, but is it really notching?     |
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i see some notching too..... i vote DDO |
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Interesting chuckster. Looks like it to me.
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 Absolutely that is DDO and a very nice one too. It looks like very strong doubling on the motto. Does it show up elsewhere on the coin like on the date or anything.  Need to wait for others to weigh in. I know there are some folks here that can tell you whether or not it is Class 1 or Class V - anothe subject I'd like to know more about. Great find! I'm assuming this is an MS Ike and what do you mean by the FEV? What are the diagnostics for it? Still drooling!! |
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 Found out some more information on the FEV Ike at the following link. http://ikegroup.org/FEV.htm Towards the bottom of this article, it appears that they have your DDO variety - least ways they have a DDO showing doubling on the IGWT motto. don't know if this helps, but is is information. congrats again.  |
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Chuck, Dude, Do not tell me that you found that in your Bank find. I think I'll have a heart attack. VERY NICE wide splits on the serifs, and the doubling rides up into the letters themselves and appears to be rounded in the photos not flat and shelf like which would indicate a strike doubled coin. Definitely a DDO and one of the widest serif spreads I have seen on an Ike in a long time. And on an 1971- D FEV (RDV-006) to boot Very well done Chuck. You know where else you have to post that right? The Ike Group Guys would love to see that. Along with full shots of the Obverse and Reverse. Just WOW and Congratulations Terry Edited by stewart
08/28/2010 09:28 am
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Dcreek1968: Thanks! Also just got confirmation from BJ Neff (Traildies.com) that this is definitely a DDO! besides being a FEV. It looks like it might be Mr Wexlers listed DDO-001. It's not the DDO-002 as the serifs are in the wrong spot. No Doubling on the reverse or anywhere else that I can see, but there is also doubling on the WE- just didn't post pics of those letters. It's an Early Die Stage FEV (Friendly Eagle) as you can clearly see the re-entry vehicle to the left of the Earth. Probably AU + grade wise, but I'm terrible at grading so I leave that also to the experts. (LOL) |
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Thanks Terry:
Yep- this was one of the 2 - 1971D FEV's that I found about 2 weeks ago going thru the $100.00 bags.
I had posted them on the Ike group asking for verification of the re-entry vehicles etc.
I got confirmation that both coins were EDS and that they were RDV-006'S.
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Nice find Chuckster. But there is more to add to your coin. The coin is from an earily die state. What does that mean? The devices are fress with very little wear. Thus the crispness of the notches and the look in your images. Very nice find. The only better than this would be a BU coin in the same die state. Any more doubling on the is coin? Date? LIBERTY? I'm using your image to add to the education images files and want to see if there is more to add to your coins images before I start with this project?
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Thanks coop: Here are some additional pics. Liberty, date, re-entry vehicle, Obv & Rev. Check out pic # 8- look like notching on the 2 l's of dollar on the reverse- possibly this is also a DDR? Also- looks like minor notching on the base of the L in Liberty? Grade wise, I'd say its at least an AU, maybe borderline BU, but I'm terrible at grading, so thats up to the experts. Re-entry vehicle/Earth  Re-entry/Earth, pic 2  WE of Motto.  Close-up of Re-entry Vehicle  DATE  LIB  ERTY  Possible Notching on L'S on Dollar,Reverse. DDR?  Obverse  Reverse  |
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Chuckster: Check the stars on the reverse. They might show doubling? I agree a DDR as well. It may be minor, but it is there. This happens a lot on the larger coins as they were hubbed many times. So it will probably happen with more hubbings. I would like a close up of the friendly eagle area. Here is a suggestion when taling full shots of the whole coin. Place the coin on a dark surface with something under the cloth. Note how your coin is light at the top and dark at the bottom? Place a few coins under the supper to tilt the coin upward at the bottom. Check to see if you can balance the color difference better. Less glare at the top and lighter at the bottom. If you are just taking images of the coin with a camera, try to get the light angle to the lens to make the top and the bottom to be the same in color. It just takes moving the camera to just the right spot before you shot the image. On the date, check the first 1. It might be affected as it is close to the area where the doubling is the strongest. I guess looking now the LIBERTY is pretty far away from the doubled die area. Great find. Looking forwards to your images. Already started on the collage. |
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coop: Here are 4 more pics, 2 more of the re-entry vehicle taken head on- normal coin position and 2 of the friendly eagle area, no brow-line. Thanks again, Chuck. Re-entry Appollo 11 vehicle pic1  Re-entry Appollo 11 vehicle pic 2  Friendly Eagle, No Brow-line pic1  Friendly Eagle, No brow-line pic 2  |
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I guess I'm missing the point about the re-entry vehicle? I can't see it in the images? I may just not know what I'm looking for?
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coop: Here is the Ike Group site explaining everything about the FEV. http://ikegroup.org/FEV.htmLook at picture #11- Gasparro added this to the design, not on normal 1971D Ike's! Here are 3 more pics of my coin- with arrow pointing to the shuttle. Most 1971D's FEV'S are VLDS, thus the shuttle is worn away, this coin is an EDS and clearly shows the shuttle. ( Before I noticed any doubling!)    Edited by chuckster 125
08/29/2010 4:43 pm
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Updated Info:
Dr. Wiles (CONECA) has requested to see the coin in hand for attribution against the CONECA FILES!
Coin is being mailed to him this week, I'll post results when coin has been returned/attributed with CONECA.
Thanks again for all the help/input!
Chuck.
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Chuck, I was just looking over the shots of the entire coin. and had a question. Does the coin in hand have a extraordinarily large amount of reflectivity, like what might be seen on a Proof coin? The reason I ask is it does look like it in the photo. It might just be the angle it was shot at. "1971-D Stuck on proof planchet" or at least proof like planchet I have a few examples of this on some 71 and 72 Denver Ikes. Something you may want to have Dr. Wiles check for on that coin. Here is a link to an old thread where Brian Vaile,Dave Wantuck, Herb Hicks, Rob Ezerman, tko-5 and I are discussing the subject along with some shots of the coin in question. A 1972 D http://ikegroup.sslpowered.com/ikeg...cc95df#p2817 As usual in the Ike world we never know what is still out there to to be discovered, and hey while Dr. Wiles has the coin in hand it would only take him a few minutes to make the determination. You might end up with a discovery piece. Hoping for the best diagnoses from the Good Dr. Terry |
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