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I rec. a 1877 cc Trade dollar, but, the weight is 26.82 grams. I understand that the weight of a coin can be off due to wear from circ. Trade dollars weight is normally 27.22. Should I be worried about the .4 gram difference?

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Wear definitely DOES affect the weight of a coin. Unfortunately, you do not mention the condition of your coin.

Let me use a parallel example, concerning British sterling (.925) threepences.

An uncirculated .925 silver threepence weighs 1.41 grammes, and one in fine condition weighs about 1.34 grammes, which is only about 95% of the uncirculated example. The average weight was obtained from a batch of 1300 coins. (quoted loosely from 'Coincraft's 1998 Standard Catalogue of English and UK coins') - publ. in London, Krause Publications.

The %age loss of your coin if genuine, is about 1.47%.

A Trade dollar would have less surface area relative to mass than a threepence, so that the %age loss in F - VF condition would be less; your coin, weight wise, seems to be in the right ballpark.
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Of course, if the piece is AU or MS, then I would be more concerned.
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Thank You, I will post pics on Wed.
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I have an 1878-S in XF that weighs 27.06g.

Based on previous posts I have seen, your's seems to be in the acceptable weight range to me.
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Well here are the pics. Weight is 26.8g

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These next set of pics are of a 1875 s same obv. & rev. that I have been using as a reference. Weight is 27.2g

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Thank You in advance
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Kenkat, That was a different Trade dollar.
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I don't understand what you mean by "that was a different Trade dollar".
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KenKat, I misread your post. I thought you were speaking of a Trade dollar that I posted earlier on.
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to be honest I don't think the Trade dollar has enough wear to constitute weight loss
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I was wondering if the chop marks could of reduced the weight.
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No, but if perhaps if A coin is not genuine, then chopmarks would help to deceive a prospective buyer.
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Well an 1877-CC Trade dollar has a wholesale bid price of $2,200 in MS60, so I'd be worried about the weight variance. At that price, you need professional authentication even if the weight is perfect.
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I was wondering if the chop marks could of reduced the weight.

Chop marks do not remove metal they just depress it. Forgers have found they can copy chop marks and that will make their counterfeit coins look that much more authentic
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I would like to send this to someone from the forum for authenication. If this is possible Please contact me.
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