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 Posted 09/06/2010  03:45 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rh13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
any help or info?thanks
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OK, ill try and help.

first off, its copper, not bronze, bronze pennies were only made between 1864-1909 Indian head pennies.

so, you know that in 1943 the pennies were decided to be made out of zinc coated steel, there were made because the war needed copper for their bullet casings, so they decided to make them out of zinc and steel.

BUT, when this came out, 1 mint worker "forgot" to change the metal strips that the blank coins get punched out. and the result of that was about 40 or so copper coins in a mint bag. they were later distributed to banks which were later distributed to people. 1 coin collector found it, now its a huge scramble to find these "million dollar coins." yes, there could still be more out there, but its like a 99.9999999999999999999% there are not any more.

and finally, pictures

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 Posted 09/07/2010  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Adam,

First of all they are BRONZE not copper. The last copper cents struck ended in 1857 with the large cents. The Cent was Bronze (and alloy of copper that contains tin. Bronze may contain other metals as well.) from mid 1864 through 1942, and from 1947 through 1962. (Cents from 1944 to 1946, and from 1963 to mid 1982 are Brass. An alloy of copper and zinc that contains no tin.)

Secondly the bronze blanks that created the Bronze 1943 cents did not come from someone forgetting to change the coin strip. Most likely they came for the occasional blank that was stuck in a tote bin seam, a hopper, or somewhere else in some of the machines. These stray bronze blanks would work themselves loose from time to time and get into the coinage process, be struck and went out in bags.

Third they came from all three mints and nowhere near forty pieces.
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 Posted 09/07/2010  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rh13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
so..they were bronze with steel coating?
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no, they were zinc coated steel, the errors were made out of bronze
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 Posted 09/07/2010  11:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rh13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
sorry,,SOLID BRONZE no coating?
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the 1943 steel cents were made out of zinc coated steel, no bronze at all.

the errors were made out of bronze, not steel
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Here's my '43-S bronze cent. It circulated a while before I got it in change.

Just kiddin'! It's not really mine but is a genuine 1943-S bronze cent!

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 Posted 09/08/2010  12:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rh13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any clue what this coin is on scales?
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Any clue what this coin is on scales?


Should weigh the same as standard: 3.11 grams before wear.
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Quote:
First of all they are BRONZE not copper. The last copper cents struck ended in 1857 with the large cents. The Cent was Bronze (and alloy of copper that contains tin. Bronze may contain other metals as well.) from mid 1864 through 1942, and from 1947 through 1962. (Cents from 1944 to 1946, and from 1963 to mid 1982 are Brass. An alloy of copper and zinc that contains no tin.)

Secondly the bronze blanks that created the Bronze 1943 cents did not come from someone forgetting to change the coin strip. Most likely they came for the occasional blank that was stuck in a tote bin seam, a hopper, or somewhere else in some of the machines. These stray bronze blanks would work themselves loose from time to time and get into the coinage process, be struck and went out in bags.

Third they came from all three mints and nowhere near forty pieces.
For the record, this is correct and given the wandering of this thread, it is worth repeating.
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 Posted 09/26/2010  12:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rh13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1943 should weigh 3.11?IM not sure about that,,please explain,,,
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maybe contact legend numismatics, they know where one is since they just helped a guy buy the only 1943-D known for 1.7 million dollars. He may sell if you offer him 2.7. These things usually trade privately between person to person and don't end up on web sites or auctions for sale, unless the well known collector dies and someone like Heritage is cosigned to liquidate their collection. The people that actually have them are probably hounded for years by the same people until they are finally ready to sell. They usually keep their identities private where only a handful of big time dealers know who they belong to so no one will know what exactly is in their collections. When someone comes in to these big time dealers and say they want a certain type of coin those dealers know who has that specific coin and they mediate between the two parties to generate a deal they both can live with, or when the owner is ready to sell they contact these dealers and let them know its on the market and they contact people they know will be interested and mediate between the 2 parties to strike a deal. here is pictures of the coin
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 Posted 09/26/2010  01:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rh13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
bherring 1964 quoted me,Im quoting him,1943 standard is 3.11 grams?
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Yes I would think they would weigh the same as any other bronze Lincoln Cent since they were struck on the same planchets
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 Posted 09/28/2010  12:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rh13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
oohh,,why didnt you say that,,oops.thanks,sometimes it has to be spelled out for me,,thanks again!
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