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Just browsed through the messages posted here, and I didn't see anything on coins with rotated dies. I've an 1880 Indian Head cent with a 135 degree rotation - sent it off to ANACS, and they sent it back graded as G-4 with rim damage. With the help of Mr. Van Allen, I got it listed in the Rotated Die Census after a friend, Jose Cortez, had taken an excellent photo of the obverse and reverse with the degree of rotation. It's only listed there as an R-6; however, Mr. Van Allen assured me that it is, indeed, a new rotation, and I've not seen, nor heard of, any others with this particular rotation. I've been told that rotated dies on the older coins is not an uncommon occurance. I've received estimated values from 50 dollars up to 500 dollars. Any comments?  |
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I like the look of it, don't have a clue how much it's worth, but I'd say it's a pretty penny.
Sorry, bad joke.
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That is a cool coin. I don't know if I would pay $500 for it, but then again, I don't know that I would pay $500 for any coin. At least until I have a better idea what I am doing. That, however, is a coin I would hang on to if I owned it.
QS
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Hi Ralph Very nice die rotation !! It is not at all uncommon to find die rotation on the older coins, Indian Head cents seem to have their share of them as well as the Mercury dimes,, How did this coin come into your possession ? its a very cool coin, and one to be proud of in your collection . Rick |
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here is a NGC MS65 Morgan with a rotated die I posted the other day in another thread  |
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Ralph If I Can w/ your permission I will post it at the FLY-In Club Forum. It is a club all about Indians and Flying Eagle cents. rick Snow the main attributor for Indian Head cents is a memeber / And also these people know there Indians |
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ralph I went ahead and posted it over there to try an get some info hopefully from rick snow. I hope you do not mine
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Metalman - in response to your question about how this particular Indian came into my possession - I bought a bunch of IHCs through a dutch auction on ebay, and this one was in the bunch, so, frankly, the cost of the individual coin wasn't all that much; however, round trip postage, insurance, and fees from ANACS wound up to be a bit more than I had planned on. This is the first, and only, coin that I've ever sent in for grading - new experience. As to the rotated dies being fairtly common in early coins, I read that in some publication, so, in one sense, it's not uncommon, and in another, it's the only IHC with this date to be listed in the rotated die census with this particular degree of rotation. The young man there assigned it an R-6 rating, and sent me an explanation as to why and how he reached that decision, but, no matter the rating, I think it's a unique coin, and I'm right proud to own it. |
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Hi Ralph
Amazing how a coin with this much rotation not only circulated for I would guess a few years to reach a G-4 grade, but then passed through who knows how many hands, to be sold in a dutch auction to finally come into the hands of someone who looked at the coin !!
Cool stuff Ralph !!
Rick
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scoutjim99 - heck no, I don't mind. I appreciate the exposure, and I thank you. Being fairly new to the world of coin collecting, there are so many things I don't know, so any, and all assistance is much appreciated.
I believe I've seen Rick Snow's name in print someplace - I've tried to read as much as I can on this hobby we all share, and sometimes it tends to run together to the point that I can remember pieces of an article, but can't remember where I read it.
I think it's pretty spiffy that I might have a coin that nobody else has - that's a good feeling. One of the perks of coin collecting, I guess.
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Metalman - Yeah, ain't that a kick? I would imagine that the rotation has been noticed by others in the past, and, apparently all who noticed it thought it was just a defected coin. I didn't think too much about it myself when I first got it, but, through the urging and guidance of Jose Cortez and David Grubb at usacoincollectors group on yahoo, I took the steps necessary to get it graded and stuff. Now, it will stay in it's current condition - at least for as long as it's in my possession.
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This is all I have so far Quote Atlantic - Fly-In CLub-) Hello, This is a very nice coin and great job on the pics, I have been told that rotated dies were quite common for Indian cents, I once had an 1865 with an exact 180 degree rotation and it did not bring any more than if it had not been rotated, as far at the value of yours I would guess it would be whatever that market would bring. Nice coin and thanks for posting |
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scoutjim99 - way cool that you already got a response. Reckon that feller should have held onto that 1865 IHC with a 180 degree rotation. I wonder when he sold it - reason for that being I don't think there has been all that much interest in rotated die coins within the general coin collecting community. I think that will change someday - people seem to be scrambling to collect other oddities in coins - why not rotated die coins? If, and when, it does, I'll still have my little Indian tucked away. Thanks. |
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tha club is alittle slow on responces but I am sure some relly good ones are comming so check back
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Ok, what a coincidence, I was just about to post an identical thread. I have a 1864 IHC with 120 degree rotation. Is there any significance to this? Any guesses about a price? Very cool, Ralph! |
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manhandles761991 - way cool that you've got one with a rotated die as well. I've no idea as to the value of my own coin, so I couldn't even venture a guess on your's, but I would suggest you hang onto it. Rotated die coins may become a hot item someday, and, even if they don't, it's a unique coin.
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