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Dime With A "Copper Wash"...is This Real?

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 Posted 09/16/2010  10:51 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add lizzyjo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
"Error Coin 1976 D Dime with Copper Wash" is on ebay right now, and several people have bid. The description says "This coin was washed at the mint in the same water pennies had been washed in. It weighs the same as other dimes 2.3 grams." The dime is a copper color. Sold for $40.75.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Error-Coin-1976...em483c4f1dfb

I don't get it. Does this accidental washing of dimes in penny water actually happen? Is this a true error? I'm thinking that it's not, but so many people have bid on it that now I'm not so sure.

I have a nickel of this color. Could it have been "washed" as well?

(edit-Wait a minute...this isn't an event. I don't know how that got there.)
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09/16/2010 11:05 pm
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 Posted 09/16/2010  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hopping_rabbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds fishy to me to. To me it isn't worth the risk, even for 40 bucks.
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 Posted 09/16/2010  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
LOL, that is someone who completely misunderstands the term "copper wash" It has nothing to do with reusing wash water. The provided pictures are terrible and I have to assume that this is just an altered coin and nothing more.

A copper wash can involve an immersion in a copper plating solution or refer to a sintered planchet. This coin is a 1976 so it pre-dates Zincolns not to mention the fact that the Zincoln planchet are produced by a private contractor, Jarden Zinc, so they are plated before the planchets arrive at the Mint. Copper dust can accumulate in the annealing drums and a planchet that gets stuck for an extended period can essentially be powder coated with copper. The heat is not high enough to melt the copper powder but it does fuse to the surface of the planchet, this process is known as sintering.
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 Posted 09/17/2010  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carmykle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For my information Biochemist6:

Isn't there some cleaning process for those drums to prevent this? Actually as expensive as copper is, I would have thought they would have a reclamation process just as they do for the excess copper.
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09/17/2010 12:15 pm
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 Posted 09/17/2010  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am sure there is some sort of cleaning process but if all of the Mint SOPs were followed, there would be almost no errrors minted I doubt if they try to reclaim small amounts of copper dust, the time and effort involved would probably render it ineffective cost-wise. I am not even sure if the Mint has ever utilized a dust recovery effort for silver but I do know they they previously did it for gold.
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Thanks, I knew about the gold recovery, that's why I asked.
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 Posted 09/18/2010  10:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How about post mint copper plating? I used to do this to coins when I was a kid with a toy chemistry set!
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