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1884-O VAM 10?

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 Posted 09/17/2010  7:18 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SDcoinguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
my mom sent my this morgan today in the mail. I think its been in her dresser drawer for ever. it has beautiful toning on the reverse.

from what I could tell from researching the coin on VAMWORLD.com, the 'O' has a squiggle line on the right, inner edge. I think I could also find the die gouge on the REV right star. I am not sure if my ear was doubled and the eagle had die scratches on it either... but I do know for sure the 'O' has something inside of it. please help with a grade and possible value please. all help is appreciated!

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SD

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 Posted 09/17/2010  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think you have it pegged as VAM 10, with I2R4 its a very common coin and probably goes for common money..check for the star gouge to lock it in, both date and MM look right..wild guess about $25-35 retail,FMV online pricing, In a shop maybe more but you can't get it if you sell..
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 Posted 09/18/2010  02:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDcoinguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cool . Thanks aladin!
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 Posted 09/20/2010  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If I even knew the first thing about grading, I would give an opinion, but I don't, so I won't. Possibly the 'Classic US Coin Grading' forum would produce better results?
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 Posted 09/20/2010  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would venture a grade, IMO, This coin exhibits a GOOD Obverse strike, some rub spots in the commons areas, Head, Hair over the ear, I still see some remnants of original luster, although I believe the coin was cleaned at some time, obvious cleaning marks above and below the Lettering and around the relief areas.
The Reverse, I see as a better than good strike, some small rub spots in common areas, actually to shiny for the coin to be "natural", meaning I believe this is more of the cleaning residue we see, along with the same marks around the lettering, and the eagles head, over all this coin has some distracting marks, whether from just being dirty or from another ? source.
I see this coin still in pretty decent condition, I would grade, from these photos, this coin a EF-45+- AU+, Just my opinion.....
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 Posted 09/20/2010  10:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with the fullness of the chest and feathers you can see, I would put it at at least AU58, with a chance of sliding into MS grade, depending on how much they will allow for the color or toning,
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 Posted 09/21/2010  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AL, I am asking you, don't you mean the "lack of tail feathers', I do see some but next to none on the legs and around them, The upper chest of the eagle presents barely any feathers.Also the dings at 7pm on the Obverse,the missing, or rubbed off hair over Anna's ear, the wear on the cap, the letter N from the word ONE on the Reverse is very beat-up and again, the overall appearance would IMO, never receive the grade of an MS Coin, maybe as stated before, AU+, JUST MY OPINION.......PS, Not to mention the coin was with out a doubt, from all observations, Cleaned....Not a $33.00 coin in MS60,Sept, NN Coin Market Price Guide, NOT...Compare a slabbed MS-60 Morgan to this coin, I believe you will see the difference I am speaking about...
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 Posted 09/26/2010  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDcoinguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
cleaned aye? I cant seem to agree with that. could people point out the DEFINITE details to me to show me this is a cleaned coin?
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could people point out the DEFINITE details to me to show me this is a cleaned coin?


OK.

The first 3 pics show "auras" of less-toned areas around the devices. The devices themselves are toned. These are characteristic of newer/artificial toning following a chemical cleaning. The third pic is particularly revealing; it speaks "AT" very loudly to me.

I'm not saying it's deliberate - one of the things we miss when pronouncing a coin AT vs. NT is that very few people "deliberately" tone their coins.

The date detail pic shows characteristic northwest-southeast scratch lines consistent with brushing, on the neck and field to its' left. The pic is too small a sample to decide with certainty, though.

One finds strongly-struck 1884-O Morgans. I believe this to be one of them, having circulated a little.
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 Posted 09/26/2010  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi all, been gone a while, but I simply meant in the post that this was an EX coin is wrong..his photos have detail for grade..

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after your post I did see the rub, and as I stated, I do think this is AU58 but from the details detail wise it could be better mabey MS,,but the from the crappy color as I noted, and the reminder of the rib, it wont make an MS coin,, but its not an EF coin by details.. double click on his original photo's....that's not a flat chest. except for the color it could have been an MS slider by grade....not by color
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