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I am trying to determine pricing for this 1904-S Barber Half, as I might put it on ebay with a Reserve, but the official price guides are all over the map. I am basing the price on a grade of Fine, unless CCF users think it has a different grade. Numismedia lists it at $420. PCGS lists it at $350. CoinValuesOnline, which is usually the highest, lists it at only $275. What do CCF collectors think is a realistic price, and do you go along with the Fine grade? These are the new LARGE PHOTOS. ![1904-S-Barber-Half---[[new-Large-Photos]]](http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww232/TonysPics_2009/1904SBarbHalf500pixO-7.gif) ![1904-S-Barber-Half---[[new-Large-Photos]]](http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww232/TonysPics_2009/1904SBarbHalf500pixR-4.gif) Edited by CoinMeister
09/21/2010 3:10 pm
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I have a feeling tons of people would like to buy this for anything close to under $1000...
I would call this at least VF-30/probably higher with possible environmental damage from the thickness of the toning, but that could just be the pics. Its likely worth well over $1000, possibly $2000+.
Would definitely have this authenticated, though. At first glance, the date looks a little off but I could easily be wrong about that. If someone can check these on heritage, they can determine whether it is authentic with high confidence.
Edited by coinguybrian
09/20/2010 6:43 pm
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Get this coin certified by one of the "big 3" only. I would also agree that this coin has environmental issues as evidence by the porosity on the rims and definitely evident by the darker coloration and porosity especially near "states of". It will come back in a Details or Genuine holder but then, at least you know you have a genuine coin. It has VF Details IMO.
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09/20/2010 9:50 pm
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The 1904-S is amazingly expensive in higher circulated grades but is fairly reasonable if you don't mind low grade. This Good-4 example was more my cup of tea, for about $40. Details are lacking but at first glance the shape of the date numerals and the mint mark appear similar to CoinMeister's specimen. I notice however that on my coin the date numerals appear thicker (could be the result of wear) and the 0 is a bit tilted to the left while CoinMeister's coin has a more "upright" 0. I agree your coin has VF detail but I expect it would be deemed "environmentally damaged" if submitted to a TPG. The potential value of this coin should justify certification. It should be easier to sell if it is slabbed to confirm authenticity. ![1904-S-Barber-Half---[[new-Large-Photos]]](https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/uploaded/Jaobler/2010920_1904SBarberRawGoodObv.jpg) ![1904-S-Barber-Half---[[new-Large-Photos]]](https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/uploaded/Jaobler/2010920_1904SBarberRawGoodRev.jpg) |
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I don't see why this coin wouldn't make full XF details? It has full bold wing lines on the reverse, and liberty looks strong on the obverse. I agree that it would only make a "details" grade due to environmental damage, but I'd bet it would get XF details. I would send it to NGC or ANACS to make sure I get the details grade, since there is such a large price swing in the higher grades. I agree with shadow, probably closer to the 1K level value wise.
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I know NGC now grades the damaged coins instead of sending them back in a body bag, but what about PCGS; will they grade a damaged coin?
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They will slab it, but they wont grade it. Meaning it will be in a slab that only says "Genuine". NGC or ANACS will give it a details grade, and I think that is preferable in the case with this coin in my humble opinion.
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Yep, I think an XF details grade is definitely possible. Whether it slabs with the environmental damage designator depends a lot on whether the toning is as dark as the pics. Even with an XF details grade, I'd say over $2000 easy. These can go way more expensive than the price guides from what I've seen.
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Compaing this to both the PCGS photo grade and PCGS coin facts this one is hard to tell. The obverse side while pitted and dark still shows nice detail in the ribbon on the bust at the neck. However, it is the eagles shield that shows no detail of the fine horizontal and vertical lines. If you notice even in Jaobler's coin, there is still some vertical fine lines visible. BUT, it is hard to tell on yours just by enlarging the screen to see details. Either way, for a few bucks, I would have it certified. FYI: Just last month, a 1904 PCGS MS67 sold for $138,000 at the Boston ANA coin auction. A 1905 F-15sold for $518 at the same show. |
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I think that coin is at least a VF-30 with a pretty good shot at XF-40, but I am with the rest of them, get it certed. It will bring in far more cash in a details or genuine holder than it would raw.
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Maybe send this guy off to NCS for conservation first. They do some amazing things with ED Coins.
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Definite environmental damage now IMO. If its actually corroded, its going to hurt the value a lot but if just excessive darkness, it won't be as bad.
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09/21/2010 3:19 pm
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Definite environmental damage now IMO. If its actually corroded, its going to hurt the value a lot but if just excessive darkness, it won't be as bad.
I am pretty sure it is ED. If it has corrosion, should I still get it certified? Edited by CoinMeister
09/21/2010 5:45 pm
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Definitely. An XF details grade will still mean big money because of how rare the coin is in that state of preservation, problems or not.
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