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Hi, I need some assistance figuring out a grade for this coin. Also give your thoughts regarding the authenticity of this coin by providing any evidence to support your opinion. The measured weight is 6.27 g, the measured diameter is 27.16 mm, and the measured thickness is 1.46 mm. I appreciate any help you all can provide.   |
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Judging by the photo, the sharp edges of the rim do not match the overall wear. Weight should be closer to 6.7 grams if authentic. Looks like a cast fake to me. Let's see what others have to say.
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I can't help you as far as authenticity goes, but my gut tells me that the stars on the obverse just don't look right. You might also want to post this in the Classic U.S. Coins forum. There are some really knowledgeable people who know a lot about bust halves there, and I'm not sure if they look too much in the Modern U.S. Coins forum on this site.
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The weight loss seems normal to me but the diameter, if accurate, is too large. Your coin appears to have environmental damage with VF+ details. I believe it is authentic, but you need to re-check the diameter. There's not a lot of value here because of it's condition. If it's genuine and properly conserved, the value could be around $150.
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The weight loss seems normal to me but the diameter, if accurate, is too large. The weight is slightly low, but the diameter is too SMALL not to large. This date should be around 29 mm. |
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MDPMedia, a question: where are you getting these coins you are posting?  |
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Specs on the Capped Bust quarter should be: weight 6.74 grams, diameter 27mm. Red Book does not comment on the thickness. This coin is underweight and too large in diameter if your measurements are correct. The color and appearance look to be more like a cast fake, not original for an 1818 CB. Grade wise, I would put it in the F-12 class. The dark splotches have me baffled. My $.02. |
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Quote:Specs on the Capped Bust quarter should be: weight 6.74 grams, diameter 27mm. No, you are looking at the wrong Bust Quarters. 1815-1828 had a large diameter of 29mm while 1831-1836 had a small diameter of 27mm. Based on the provided diameter of this coin, it is certainly counterfeit.Nevermind, CCF US Coin Facts had bad numbers listed  Edited by biokemist6
09/25/2010 12:13 am
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Forum Dad
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I am confused a bit on the diameter issue since the 60th edition 2007 Red Book indicates that 'large' diameter (1815 - 1828) bust Capped Bust quarters have a diameter of 27 mm while 'reduced' diameter (1831 - 1838) bust capped quarters have a diameter of 24.3 mm. Also per the Red Book both type coins, however, apparently weigh the same 6.74 grams per coin composed of 89.24% silver. Since we're getting down to discrepancies of just a few millimeters is the posted 29 mm diameter figure posted on http://www.coincommunity.com/us_qua...ped_bust.asp correct? |
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1815-1828 27 mm, weight 6.74 grams 1831-1836 24.3 mm, weight 6.74 grams. From Early United States Quarters by Steve M. Tompkins. 1818 Capped Bust quarterPCGS #: 5322 Diameter: 27.50 millimeters Designer: John ReichWeight: 6.74 grams Edge: Reeded Metal Content: 89.2% Silver, 10.8% Copper Mintage: 361,174 I think size/weight are close, although IMO the weight should be 6.4 grams or more for the amount of wear. I know I know, not far off. Based only on what I see in the image provided ( scan?) the coin appears to be a cast fake. Compare this coin to replicas offered on ebay. It is tough to judge based on photos, scans, however. If genuine, F 12-15, might make VF. Again, it is tough to assign grade based solely on images. Edited by m9frank
09/24/2010 2:12 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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this coin looks to have a seam around the edge as well as some others you have shown. That is a tell tell sign of a cast copy
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Similarities? I don't mean to beat you over the head with this. I hope your interest in coins isn't squashed, assuming your CBQ is fake. I've made numismatic mistakes and I might (might?) make more. It's all part of the learning process.  Edited by m9frank
09/24/2010 2:34 pm
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m9frank, that's interesting. I don't know this series well, but I study dates on coins closely. As we know, dies for 19th C. US coins were dated individually, producing many variations. Copies usually involve one date position, and these two appear to match.  |
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Copies can be made of any or all varieties of any coin. There are 10 known varieties of 1818 CBQs. The coin in question appears to be a B-10 (copy).
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Copies can be made of any or all varieties of any coin.  I'm just saying--if you spot a number of questionable coins with similar details like the date--big red flag.  |
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