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 Posted 09/23/2010  11:07 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add twohawks to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Here is one of the " In my box too sent too Leroy Van Allen "

This is a 1880 S Morgan. It looks like a very early die state after a major polish. All of the polishing looks like it was to remove clash marks as they are only where you normally see clashing. If this is determined to be fact then there should be a clashed version of this coin. As far as Morgan dollars go, (S) minted coins do not have many that have clashing compared too P,O,and CC's.

I found this one about 2 days after I sent in the bunch that is currently over with LVA now.


Sorry for the over kill on the photos I just think this one is neat.



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 Posted 09/24/2010  12:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Russ, I believe you are correct in your statement about there being a clashed version of this coin, from this reverse die, at least some out there.
I really do not think the operator stopped the presses after the first coin was found to be a clashed coin, good luck finding a match, I am not being sarcastic when I say that, you and I both know, their out there somewhere!
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 Posted 09/24/2010  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wowser, that is some astounding die polishing. Looks like a '78S or a '21, not an 1880.
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 Posted 09/24/2010  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add remmy1100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was thinking the exact same thing Dave... Looks like a 78s or a 21.
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I am not sure of this one as far as what VAM it is. As it is a repaired or reworked die, I think I need to ID it before it go's in. This will end up as a Vam-? a or b I would think.
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I have tried to attribute this coin to no avail........HELP!
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I have it as a Vam-31 very early die state doubled date 1880 and a centered mm tilted left
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I will and should of said, 'from your pictures'.
I mean I could not make out the date that well ( dbld ) and the mm looks OK to me from the pictures....Bottom line, you feel you have it nailed down, will you still send it to LVA?
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 Posted 09/24/2010  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Looks like a '78S or a '21, not an 1880.


I don't know what the rationale is for that is other than just raw experience, but I might come to the same conclusion for a different reason. (To me, this looks to have been accomplished by hand rather than polishing plate).
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The photos do not show the depth of the lines on this one. The lines are in the die and are raised as well as terminate in strait lines into the devices. The reverse die is PL and reflects over 9 in. Readable too 7 in. with no cartwheels.

I plan too send it in it will most likely be labeled a Vam-31a. Polishing lines this strong are often listed.
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The lines are in the die and are raised as well as terminate in strait lines into the devices.


Yeah, it is those features that cause me to think as I do.

Good luck with a revision Russ.
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Looks like a '78S or a '21, not an 1880


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I don't know what the rationale is for that is other than just raw experience

Here is a 1921 example,This used to be a VAM-1A but has now been renamed the VAM-41B. It was hard to see the lines in these photo's because the coin is in a case but if you look on VAMworld you will see pictures I had taken a couple years ago (the pictures with the yellow tint)of this same coin, just look for VAM-41B instead of 1A now

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That's some serious polishing lines. Very nice.

Can you see it without any magnification? I somewhat see it (right side - full reverse view). The glare is messing me up.

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I believe I also see the classic Morgan rusted die foot prints on this coin..........
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if you are asking about the 1921 yes you can definitely see them without magnification and looks harshly cleaned. The 1921 definitely has pitted die on the reverse around the bow and leaves. here are my pictures from a few years ago on VAMworld of this same coin
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Bryan, yours I can see it and was referring to Russ's coin.

I do like the pitting on your coin.

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