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Valued Member
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I have had this coin(?) for quite a while. I found it in an old house in the 70's along with 3 or 4 other (quarter size) coins that were worn so bad I couldn't tell what they were. I guess I always hoped it was authentic but I didn't figure there was much of a chance. Anyway, some of you guys that know these coins can probably give it a quick glance and declare it as fake or not. The picture shows detail pretty well but the color is not copper looking. It is actually almost black. The poor picture shows more of a true color. What say ye?    Thanks in advance for your comments. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I am not sure if its real or not but if real it should be silver. All the ones I have found pictures of are not as round as yours (I guess because of the way they were minted) but here is the coinfacts page about the coin that may help you http://www.coinfacts.com/colonial_c...r_coins.html |
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I had a conversation with someone once about these and I was told that there were MANY of these counterfitted at the time in pewter. I was also told that the old counterfits made during the period this coin was used have a value since they were old.
I haven't tried to clean this coin or check to see what metal it is made of. One thing for sure, it's NOT silver, pewter... maybe.
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Pillar of the Community
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Looks like a cast fake. There are many of these floating around made before the Hobby Protection Act was passed that required the coins to be stamped as copies. The valuable "old copies" are the "struck" copies made in the 1850s.
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So, the originals were stamped and not cast..... correct?
Yes, this one was definitely cast.
How could I tell if it is one of the 1850 cast coins.......
and what would the value be?
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Pillar of the Community
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The copies from the 1850's were "struck" also, not cast. All the cast copies are "tourist grade" with minimal value. you could get them in sets of Early American Money etc in gift shops. There used to a paragraph in RedBook right before the colonial section that talked about struck copies and they used to flag the coins with known copies with a star to let you know to be aware. I don't have a RedBook with me (and haven't looked in one for 10 years) so maybe someone else can check. |
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Ah-ha, so this is probably a gift shop coin.
Thanks for the insight!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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looking at the 2010 RedBook I do not see any thing like you mentioned. I also do not see any stars that you were talking about |
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United States
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I couldn't tell you if they were real or not but, if as you say you found them in an old house back in the 70's you might have something.
Depending upon where the house was, there were many houses used in early colonial times as rest stops along the old stage lines. I used to search old maps to find the stage lines once used in Vermont during colonial times. I used to belong to a metal detecting club and we would research older farms and did find some that were stage stops. Well sure enough, we would start searching and would find all sorts of old coins, everything from colonial to Morgans and silver 3 cent pieces.
So you may want to research that old house.
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09/29/2010 6:07 pm
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United States
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The General Court of New England in 1652 ordered the first metallic currency in threepence, sixpence and shilling. The mint that minted these coins was located in Boston Massachusetts. Only one specimen of the NE Threepence is known, 8 known of the Sixpence and in good condition can bring $30,000 and up, the NE Shilling trades for $40,000 and up in good condition.
The ones I saw online do not look like yours.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Cast, not struck. Modern replica.
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The ones I saw online do not look like yours.
Yes, after seeing the ones on line I think I have a good education about those coins now. Mine is definitely a cast replica. Thanks everyone for your comments. |
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Looks cast to me also with the porosity...
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Posted 09/29/2010 1:39 pm
