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1889 CC Morgan Dollar

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Hey all, I haven't dealt with too many circulated Morgans, so I am turning to your expertise. This coin is one that I bought in 2000 (I was fifteen!) for $237. I liked it because a) I did not have any "key date" coins at the time and b) I liked the contrast between the dark fields and the lighter bust (like a circulated cameo if that makes sense to anyone). I am guessing it should be at least a G(06), but am hoping it may be even higher! I'd love to know what everyone else thinks.

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 Posted 10/07/2010  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would grade this coin at VG-8.

(ment to say VG-8)
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 Posted 10/07/2010  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VG, maybe VG+
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 Posted 10/07/2010  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G-8 is really VG8 I think. Anyhow, I think this is a a VG coin
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 Posted 10/07/2010  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add remmy1100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That should be in plastic... way too rare not to be. Looks like a VAM-2A. Very Nice.
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 Posted 10/07/2010  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
not a VG coin IMO. a firm G-6
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 Posted 10/07/2010  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That coin looks exceptionally attractive for the grade. Nice Circ Cameo! Way above average VG.
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 Posted 10/07/2010  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add remmy1100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
circ cameo eh?
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 Posted 10/07/2010  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1893S to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VG-VG+
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 Posted 10/07/2010  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mattbrowning7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it just might BARELY get to VG 10. On the other hand, if you sent it in, it would more than likely catch an 8. From what I understand, TPGs will generally take the low end if there is a borderline like this.

I made an interesting finding when I was researching and comparing your coin to others. I found that when you bought the coin, it was a G 6. And now its a VG 8/10. I compared photos of what PCGS called G 6 in 1997 (PCGS Coin Grading and Counterfeit Detection, 1st Edition) to what they call G 6 now (PCGS Photograde Online) and they are very different.

The G 6 in 1997 looks exactly like a VG 8/10 now.

And the G 6 now looks so close to what was AG 3 then. Only difference is that the AG has blended rims and the G 6 doesn't.

I'm really interested in this so I will probably post a new topic if I find any other supporting evidence of such a difference.

ANYWAY, nice VG 8/10 you have there
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Adam, hope you don't mind me sliding this one in on the same premise, as I don't know the first thing about grading, but to me, this one seems to me to be in about the same area of condition except without the warm lighting. I was hoping to hear some grade opinions on this one. Maybe remmy might be so kind as to attribute it as well.







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 Posted 10/07/2010  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Zee your coin has a little bit more detail than Adams, I would grade it at VG-10.
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This example poses a dilemma to both collectors and sellers alike. It's right on the cusp of F, conservative grading would be VG+, liberal grading would be F. I've seen this condition sold either way.
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 Posted 10/07/2010  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam590 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone for your opinions. I would like to submit this one and get it slabbed. Is there a way of doing that other than paying to join PCGS then paying again for them to grade/slab it?

Remmy: thanks for the advice. It lives in plastic silver dollar holder and came out briefly so I could photograph it with the edges more visible.

Zeewool: I like yours! I like the coloring and the smooth, even wear.

Mattbrowning: I also consulted photograde on PCGS, and was a little surprised by the standards. I'm glad it's not just me that thinks they may be a little different now. I would love to read you post more about this!

Again, thanks all of you for your time.
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I'd grade the OP's coin VG10. The second one posted looks F12 to me.
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 Posted 10/07/2010  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
guys, I'm still gonna go against the grain and say G-6
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