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Do You Detect Around SF Bay Area (California)?

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I spent years in the area doing backcountry hiking/exploring. I know a lot of the logging, mining, and Spanish colonial sites--which might not be obvious at first glance. If you metal-detect in the area, I could pass this info on to you--just send me an email.
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 Posted 10/21/2010  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nohope587 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I detect in that area when I am on road trips. I have not had much luck in California. It seems to have the highest population of detectorists than any other state; and they start early. Have often seen guys out at parks and schools at first light. Would love to be able to plan my next road trip around some new hunting grounds.
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I could point you to a few locales which most detectorists wouldn't visit, due to rugged terrain. Hiking is involved.
There is a whole Spanish colonial town that was filled-in by the govt in the 40s, which could be promising.
I have seen surface artifacts which suggest there is a lot more in the ground.
Note: these are all on public land, which my need approval prior to detecting--I'm unsure about that.
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 Posted 10/21/2010  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nohope587 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think I am safe. Will PM you with my e-mail thank you.

http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/info/ia...tecting.html

Metal Detecting is legal on public property

I submit for your cosideration that the litmus for use of a metal detector first depends on 1) The private/public property issue; 2) Intent; and 3) Equipment used.

You have to look for it, but most Forest Service (USDept of Agriculture) Superintendents will have language similar to the below somewhere in their office or on their website:


"The allowable use of metal detectors on National Forest system lands takes a number of different forms. Detectors are used in searching for:
1)treasure trove,
2)locating historical and prehistorical artifacts and features,
3)prospecting for minerals, and
4)searching for recent coins and lost metal objects.
Of these four types of uses for metal detectors, the first three are covered by existing regulations that require special authorization, i.e. special use permits, notice of intent, or operating plan.
The search for treasure trove, which is defined as money, unmounted gems, or precious metals in the form of coin, plate, or bullion that has been deliberately hidden with the intention of recovering it later, is an activity which is regulated by the Forest Service. Searching for treasure trove has the potential of causing considerable disturbance and damage to resources and thus requires a Special Use Permit from the Forest Service. Methods utilized in searching for treasure trove must be specified in the permits issued. Permits may not be granted in each and every case, but applications will be reviewed with attention being paid to the justification given and guarantees for the restoration of any damage that might occur to other resources. The use of metal detectors in searching for treasure trove is permissible when under this type of permit, but must be kept within the conditions of the permit.
The use of a metal detector to locate objects of historic or archaeological value is permissible subject to the provisions of the Antiquities Act of 1906, the Archaeological Resources Preservation Act 1979, and the Secretary of Agriculture's regulations. Such use requires a Special Use Permit covering the exploration, excavation. appropriation, or removal of historic and archaeological materials and information. Such permits are available for legitimate historical and prehistorical research activities by qualified individuals. Unauthorized use of metal detectors in the search for and collection of historic and archaeological artifacts is a violation of existing regulations and statutes.
The use of a metal detector to locate mineral deposits such as gold, and silver on National Forest System lands is considered prospecting and is subject to the provisions of the General Mining Law of 1872.
Searching for coins of recent vintage (less than 50 years) and small objects having no historical value, as a recreational pursuit, using a hand-held metal detector, does not currently require a Special Use Permit as long as the use of the equipment is confined to areas which do no posses historic or prehistoric resources"

On the BLM, your rights are even more preserved. Should you have a loop on the detector designed for gold, your unimpaired rights are further enhanced under the Mining Act of 1872.

Prospecting with a metal detector is an unalienable rights secured by consent of the governed.

Please see the following for more information:

Mining Act of 1872; The Forest Land Policy Management Act; 36 Code of Federal Regulations; 43 Code of Federal Regulations.
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DVCollector, can you tell me the best locations for metal detecting in the San Francisco Bay Area, CA?
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Emma, I have a Google Earth file that points out a few sites.
As Nohope pointed out, searching should be OK, but I'll leave that to you.
Email me and I'll send you the file.
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DVCollector, it won't let me send you an email. So now what?
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The forums don't recommend posting emails here, so I can just post some general observations here.
Many of the sites I've discovered are in fairly rugged terrain. Is there a particular region within the BayArea you like to detect? I may be able to give you some ideas.
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I like Half Moon Bay, I live in Belmont, I'm pretty open to most things. Are there certain places I might look that have 'gold' or just lost treasures in general? Old stuff that was lost from way back when.
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Hmm...that's an interesting area too; I've been in HMB lots.
One place to consider is the old coastal rail line near HMB that has been converted to a bike path.
It's not asphalted over the whole stretch. Since your near Skyline road, I'd suggest looking at the open land such as around Montebello Open Space. I've found old black powder musket balls up there. I've never found gold, although I'm sure rings get lost on the beaches.
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Cool, thanks! Also, are there any great places around San Francisco as well? Also, you were talking about an old colonial camp, where is that located?
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North of HMB, there is another promising spot. Near Montara Beach, there is a trail system in MacNee park.
There is one trail that winds its way up over the San Pedro mountain and towards Pacifica. That is the old Spanish road used during the colonial period. It's a steep climb, so I doubt much detecting has been done there.
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Also, you were talking about an old colonial camp, where is that located?

That is in the South Bay, at Almaden Quicksilver Park. There is a whole town that was essentially buried by the govt. in the 40s. Judging by the surface debris, I'm sure there are artifacts there--if it's OK to detect. It's called "Spanish Camps", and is on the maps of the park. Another pretty rugged uphill trek. (About 1200' up from the parking lot).
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Thank you! I can't wait to check those out!
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Probably been picked over like crazy, but in Napa County there was an old stage coach trail over the hills that came down around Calistoga. When I was a Boy Scout in the 70s we hiked the trail and slept in the ruins of the old station. In the morning I woke up and was looking under the stones of the wall directly in front of me and noticed a nickel, a 1913 S in XF, a little poking around in the same spot left me with a 1911 Liberty nickel, and a half dozen IHCs, as well as one lone Lincoln, a 1910s in XF. I have often wondered what else was there.
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DVC, I was wondering if you could suggest some sites in the bay area. I live in Vacaville and I am new to the hobby, I have tried to email you but because I am a new member I was not able to, so if you could email me I would really appreciate it, thank you. Jay
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