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1879-S VAM 9

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 Posted 10/24/2010  10:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add oober to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I picked this up the other day and I always try my best to attribute to a VAM. I believe this may be a VAM 9. Hopefully the pics are sufficient. One die marker missing is the die marker by the cotton leaf, there is one. But enjoy.
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 Posted 10/24/2010  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe you have a winner, sir. Wonderful eye appeal, as well - it has no major distractions. What's your opinion of grade? I'm inclined to think it has slightly circulated.
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 Posted 10/25/2010  12:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oober to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Still working on taking better photos, but I think it is around an xf or so, there is some where on Liberty's hair above the ear and above the brow. Also some where on the Eagles breast feathers.

I do like the eye appeal of this one as well.
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 Posted 10/25/2010  12:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes indeed....a very pretty coin.
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 Posted 10/25/2010  12:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would disagree regarding grade; methinks this one's no worse than AU50, maybe 55. The hair details are not always fully brought up; I tend to concentrate on reverse details such as the top edges of the wings, the neck and legs when grading.
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 Posted 10/25/2010  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oober to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your opinion, it just reaffirms why I come here, to learn something new everyday in this great hobby.

Now when grading Morgans, I do need to take yr/mint into consideration correct? Is there a recommended book covering these details?

Thanks again.
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 Posted 10/25/2010  01:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This stuff isn't really all codified in one book; it's more just experience you pick up with practice. One can generalize more about mint than year. Generally, I expect San Fransisco coins to be well-struck and New Orleans the opposite. Philadelphia can be all over the scale but normally is found well-struck. Exceptions occur.

It's actually kinda hard to describe the process, since the areas where weak strikes show are also areas of early wear - hair, breast, talons. The biggest two leaves, left and right of the wreath. The dots in the cotton bolls.

I do this almost subconsciously now. Part of it is factoring in the quality of the photographic process; it's a heck of a lot easier in-hand because then you can evaluate luster as an additional factor. There will be a more rounded look to the hair nearest the ear when it's wear; a flat strike tends to "shelve" there. The talons will be equally featureless with a weak strike, and differ in detail if worn. If the detail at the top of the wings is sharp yet the breast looks "worn," I think strike instead of wear.
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 Posted 10/25/2010  02:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
definite lock on VAM 9! nice coin! don't think I have a 79 with rev 78..one of these days....
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Hey buddy, how have you been? I have missed you....We have been talking coin stuff here.
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 Posted 10/25/2010  02:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hey Zee the 78 stuff is really amazing...got to look at some of it. good stuff!
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 Posted 10/25/2010  02:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like the exchange of ideas......I think that normally Dave and I see eye to eye (unless he just humors me most of the time), but we are at odds on the 7/8TF thing it seems.
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