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What do you folks consider more of a science grading metal coins or paper notes? thanks for any replies..
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Not much of an answer, but...
I think they are equal but completely different.
Both take lots of experience to get good.
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I agree. It is like asking a biologist, a chemist, and a physicist which field is more important.
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 Posted 10/28/2010  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I agree. It is like asking a biologist, a chemist, and a physicist which field is more important.


Obviously your not one of those since everyone knows a Chemist is the most important. Then followed by an Electrical Engineer. All others are those that wished they were one of these.
I really have little knowledge about grading currency. And also not a good grader of coins either but I try that to some extent. I too have wondered how much it takes to grade currency. I would think currency is more difficult since not as much documentation on them from what I've seen at shows.
I've noticed over the years that most coin shows actually advertise as Coins and Currency or Coins and Cards of all of these. Yet at such shows seldom see cards and few dealers with currency. And now that this has been mentioned, I wonder if there are actually Currency shows.
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...a Chemist is the most important.
Actually, Chemistry is just applied Physics.
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And a Physicist is just a lazy Mathematician who does not want to prove a fact but rather do a couple of experiments to support his ideas.
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And a Physicist is just a lazy Mathematician who does not want to prove a fact but rather do a couple of experiments to support his ideas.


Well... if you want the truth...

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I know! Math is so pure we don't even get the Nobel Prizes. Or was it something about Nobel's wife having an affair with a Mathematician? (Did I mention Mathematicians are also good-looking?)
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"(Did I mention Mathematicians are also good-looking?)"

Here's Pierre de Fermat-

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If that's good-looking then I'm going to fill out my application form for Mr. Universe.
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looks like an egghead for sure, darn math was always my weak subjects never got past tech school, but survived math challenged, I assume with computers... that the info we have at our fingertips are all a direct relation to math...since numbers are infinit then technology is endless and mindblowing.. my two pesos j
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So to get back on topic, in regard to which is more of a science, grading coins or currency, the answer is obviously directionally proportional to the inverse of the curve of the grade in relation to the known variables. i.e. you need a mathematician
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It may be my bias, but I will say that coins require more skill to grade.

A coin, having a three dimensional dimensional design, requires more examination of the details for wear and/or damage. A knowledge of where the highest contact points is important.

A note is either crisp or worn, right? But I have to admit that I know nothing about grading notes, so I hope a note collector (ahem, wd1040) will come give their opinion!
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A coin, having a three dimensional dimensional design, requires more examination of the details for wear and/or damage. A knowledge of where the highest contact points is important.


Not really sure but currency doesn't get dented, corroded. And no one mentions wanting a TONED dollar bill. None are made of so many different things like coins that you have to weigh them to see which one they are. Coins can get a dent on the edge but you can't dent the edge of a coin. But then too you can bend a bill and it is still good but if you bend a coin, won't fit in a gum ball machine. Probably need a currency person on this one.
And with all this stuff about who is better, no one is really mentioning the Electrical Engineer. Chemist first and then the Engineer since I'm both and when I look in a mirror I always say to myself, WOW.
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Yea, with notes you have to worry about pinholes, creases, missing paper and crispness.

With coins, there is a lot more considerations.

However with notes being paper, they are inherently more fragile. Thus harder to properly preserve.
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...no one is really mentioning the Electrical Engineer.
Because it is not a science as much as it is the application of science.

E-Engineers need math and physics, Chem-E's need chemistry. By the way, my dad was an EE (retired).


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However with notes being paper, they are inherently more fragile. Thus harder to properly preserve.
That I would have to agree with.
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Unless you collect that plastic Aussie currency. You cant even tear that stuff if you try. Believe me, I tried.
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