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Pillar of the Community
United States
880 Posts |
So do you pro's remember going to your first show? Were you a bit intimidated? I know I kind of feel that way. It's at the convention center in the city and there's supposed to be like 300 some odd dealers. Right now I'm collecting Jefferson nickels and Wheaties. What advice can you all give me? I have sold silver quarters in good shape I could take to sell there, as well as a few Large Cents and Gem BU Roosies. I mean, should I even bother? Can I expect to find a good deal somewhere at the show? Or is everyone out to rip you off? It's free to get in, so I'm quite excited. Going to get lunch down there somewhere and everything. I look forward to advice/comments.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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You won't get ripped off if you fill your head with knowledge. I'd say stick to a budget, b/c you can easily get carried away. Know what you're seeking; go in with a plan.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I'm going with my wife, so the budget thing shouldn't be hard!
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Moderator
 United States
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I assume you are planning on attending the Nov 4-7 Whitman show in Baltimore? It's a big show and you'll have a great time. One piece of advise ..... resist the temptation to purchase many MSFS Jefferson 1989-1999 until you open the package I sent you this morning.  On a more constructive note ....... have a plan for what you are looking for, a reasonable budget and just browse. I remember at my first show I focused more on supplies (10x lighted loupe, coin tubes, books, etc). That served for me to reduce the 'new guy' pressure of negotiating the show. FWIW ..... you live in an area where there is a good bit of weekend 'smaller' shows that (for me) are more comfortable to attend than the annual Monster Whitman show. If the Mod Dudes will allow this link, go to .... www.coinshows.com and click on Maryland. I'm going to the 30-dealer show in Westminster tomorrow. David
Edited by nickelsearcher 10/30/2010 12:08 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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Budget is good, coins on a list in priority. With the going prices from two or three sources. The Red Book on the high side, Numismedia price list for low to middle of the road.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I actually was thinking about heading up the Fire Dept for that coin show tomorrow myself. Turns out I'm not going to now, but I might check out some other local shows. I can't wait to get those FS nickels though ;). I've already created a little legend on the inside of my Dansco (lol I hope that's not really "special" of me). Black dot next to the date = FS. I think I'm going to be looking for a 1931-S LWC, but I'm not completely sure yet. I know it's a key date and I'm not good at determining fakes yet. I feel pretty confident about the date being removed fake (I don't know how to explain it). And I feel like right now, for me, the only way I'd feel confident in buying that particular coin would be if it were from a TPC slab and then I know I'm over paying.
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Moderator
 United States
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Yeah, for your first show, just get your feet wet. I would pick up some supplies (10x loupe, cotton gloves, flips, etc.) Browse the floor, get a feeling of whats going on, and don't be afraid to ask questions. The one thing to keep in mind is don't interupt a dealer helping someone else, and don't lean in front of someone looking at the coins. Just be patient, you'll get your turn. Eventually, you will get you will be a pro. Have fun!
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Valued Member
United States
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Quote: You won't get ripped off if you fill your head with knowledge. I'd say stick to a budget, b/c you can easily get carried away. Know what you're seeking; go in with a plan.
Exactly! I've been getting carried away at all the recent coin shows I've been going to, always overextending myself and now is the time that I SHOULDN't be getting carried away with these crazy roller coaster silver prices.
Edited by RealPeso 10/30/2010 7:40 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
880 Posts |
So what else can I expect to see at coin shows? I'm assuming bulk bins, slabbed coins, supplies. Do they have the supposedly "unsearched" penny rolls? I buy them from time to time if I can get close to melt value, but that is rarely the c ASE
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Valued Member
United States
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I do not recall seeing the "unsearched" penny rolls at the show I went to. There where several bins of Wheaties you could pick through. There where also a bunch of books for sale, if you are looking for certain ones.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
880 Posts |
Any chance the Dansco and similar books are cheaper at shows?
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Moderator
 United States
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Supplies are generally cheaper plus, your not paying s/h. I'm not sure how big the show is you are attending, but here in Southern California, we have Long Beach which is a very large show (400 dealers) and see antiquities such as Roman bronze spear points and Egyptian artifacts.
swcoin.ecrater.com
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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So much depends on where the show is, how large it is, how frequent they have them, how many people go there, what else is there besides coins, etc., etc., etc. My experiesnces are the larger the show, there is a cost to get in, a cost to park, really high prices for food and beverages and the cost of renting a table for dealers is much higher. All this usually also means higher prices for anything you buy there. Most of the dealers are there for that show from all over the country so must stay at motels, hotels, pay for food in restaurants, etc. All this also means higher prices for any sale of coins or coin merchandise. Smaller shows usually mean free entrances, free parking, not much in the way of food, more regular dealers. Table rentals are much less than larger shows. Dealers are generally from the area so they can just go home later. This means they don't have to pay for anything except the table rental. As an example of this I find the Red Book by Whitman Publishing for about $12 to $15 at large shows and usually by mine for $10 at smaller shows. And note at larger shows a dealer knows he probably will never see you again and at smaller shows they want to have you for a steady customer. At any coin show always be carefull with your money. Keep wallets or cash in a front pocket. Do not produce large bundles of cash. Keep cash in smaller bundles of in several locations. If your wife is going with, make sure her purse or wallet is secure from possible thefts. Do not take or use a credit card or personal check. Note a check usually has your personal information on them an a camera phone over your shoulder can photo that. Make sure no one follows you when you leave that show too.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Also at large shows where many dealers fly in they are very limited on what they can carry so you won't see low value or bulky material. Long distance drivers can carry more but it still cuts down on low cost and bulk. And of course as mentioned large shows tend to mean very high expenses for the dealers so you will see higher value material and high profit margin items to try and recover expenses.
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Valued Member
United States
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Here's a small tip that has worked well for me. I keep a small flip pad with the coins that I need and in the grade range I am looking for. Next to the date I have a range of price of say between ms-63 and ms-65 but not at Red Book price but rather gray sheet or just over. I let the dealer see what I am looking for and what I am willing to pay. This has allowed me to get what I want at a price that I am comfortable with, without having to do much haggling. You just have to let the dealer know that this is what is in your comfort zone and are willing to spend. This works at shows as well as dealer showrooms. Actually it works better at shows because someone will give you what you want and most dealers want to be the guy to sell the coins.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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my first coin show was a HUGE ANA show and I was very intimidated and excited at the same time. There were allot of dealers there and all kinds of displays and it would have been easy to lose focus on anything because you could hardly move around in the place with all the tables and all the people there looking around
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