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 Posted 11/09/2010  4:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add slash112 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with go with what you feel about do what you feel is good but its really funny on this forum that you have people calling you out for saying an opinion (happened to me about a price for something someone was selling)
and they say you should keep your mouth shut about it
Then they tell you a scenario and you put yourself in that position and say what you would've done and you get caled a scum of the earth basically
people are funny
thats what I think
if you wanna live by the "be a good person" thing then do it all the way around
last story
a guy who works at the church where I used to go who I see regularly at work saw kids with a bag of change
they came up to the counter (I was off this day so this is what HE told me)
the kids took change from their parents or something and bought stuff with it
he paid them face for a big bag of indian head pennies, differing 1909 wheats, and old silver and other US coins
he obviously knew this stuff wasn't theirs and if he was this good dude he would've told them to go home and put it back
nope he bought it for face off unknowing little kids
is that right?
be my guest and answer I don't care
whats the difference between that and finding a dump at a bank that was stolen or cashed in because someone needed money
what we do is search for coins and things we want
we get them how we get them and thats that
all of it in some way is pretty corrupt
we technically rip off the banks and our crummy economy by taking something for 10 cents a silver dime instead of offering 2 bucks
sure use your discretion but don't say what others do is low
cause what we all do is just as low
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 Posted 11/10/2010  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add monkeyman67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not so black and white. Taking advantage of a dealer error is not as bad as taking advantage of a regular uneduacted person. Will the dealer give the person from whom they bought the coin more money? What if they walked in off the street?
I go to a dealer and trust him not to take advantage of me, in turn I will be honest with him. As long as everyone gets what they wnat outt of the deal is it ok? Tough one.
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 Posted 11/10/2010  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 3stooges to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good for you. Honesty is the best policy.

I had something similar happen once. A dealer showed me a 1921-D Mercury dime in an ANACS VF-25 holder. The coin was very nice and properly graded. When I asked for a price, the dealer (a friend) quoted me Fine ask (about half the VF price), since he was looking on the wrong column of the Gray Sheet. I pointed out the mistake, and he thanked me.
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 Posted 11/10/2010  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By the way, I'd like to say that I don't think anyone at all is scum in here that I've noticed so far ;) Seems like a real mixed bag of people of all kinds of varieties and dates, all interested in coins and money, collecting. It's nice to get to know members thoughts and attitudes and get to know people. I personally like the variety and differences. Like coins, I like 'em all. I like what we're all here for. Coins and money collecting and learning.

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 Posted 11/10/2010  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wheatguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I agree with go with what you feel about do what you feel is good but its really funny on this forum that you have people calling you out for saying an opinion (happened to me about a price for something someone was selling)


Some opinions are out of place and not all opinions fit into the statement of "everyone has a different opinion".

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with buying something at a low price, as long as that's the seller's price. An error is different though and if I were placed in the dealer's shoes I'd feel angry and upset that someone had taken advantage of a simple error that anyone could have made, especially in a situation as extreme as insideout's, In the actual moment I would feel extremely tempted, especially depending on how much I liked the dealer, but in the end I would be honest and tell the dealer he made a mistake. That's just my opinion though and I do understand sides of the situation.

If I were Carl in his situation, I definitely would have taken the 37-D 3-legger Buffalo, especially since I've never appreciated rude dealers.
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 Posted 11/11/2010  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is more to this existence than just money.
The grey line of ethical behavior can be debated.

I will say that the times I returned money that fell out of someone's
wallet, on the street or in line at a store, gave ME a lot more happiness than
whatever the cash would have done for me. By far.
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 Posted 11/11/2010  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lukkyseven to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think a 1909 S is a simple error. I would bet that 80% of dealers would have paid 1909 vdb price if the situation was turned around.

Take your 09 S VDB and 3 regulars to some dealers and say that someone passed away and you'd like to know what they'd offer for this collection. Granted they might be suspicious if you just brought pennies in... whatever the case.

I still say a lot of dealers wouldn't have said anything.
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 Posted 11/11/2010  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hey, my avatar
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bibd's Avatar
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 Posted 11/12/2010  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bibd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
upstate:
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I will say that the times I returned money that fell out of someone's
wallet, on the street or in line at a store, gave ME a lot more happiness than
whatever the cash would have done for me. By far.


Well said, and I completely agree.

For me, it's another matter altogether when an experienced dealer misses something. But in the case of this dealer with the S-VDB, it sounds like he's a real gentelman, and the honesty will pay great dividends. It's actually an ideal end to the story, IMO.

Sadly, I think a lot of dealers would back-stab the honest guy the next chance they get. But the best policy is probably to be honest and let others do their job.

(Gotta wonder how that key date would look in your collection, though!)
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 Posted 11/12/2010  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lukkyseven to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's almost hunting season. Well it is hunting season, but I can't bow hunt - so for me it's almost hunting season!
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 Posted 11/16/2010  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Got a freezer full of venison
my season ends opening day of gun
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 Posted 11/16/2010  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For me, it boils down to this--feeling good about yourself is more important than $$$.
Well done.
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