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1970 S Small Or Large Date?

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Just trying to identify and label this one correctly even though it's low grade condition. I'm not sure whether this is large or small date or what the S mint mark should normally look like for this year. Thanks for any help :)

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 Posted 11/09/2010  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Without tracking down the diagnostic pics, I'm still certain this is a large date.
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 Posted 11/09/2010  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Large Date alas.

Three quick 'small date' diagnostic that I apply to any 1970-S ...... hope this helps ... you can see these in your own photos ....

1. The tail of the '9' in the date is pointed (Sharp) on a small date and not blunt ..... yours is blunt.

2. The top of the '7' in the date is even with the top of the '9' and '0' on a small date ....... yours is lower. Try it for yourself by holding a piece of paper on your 2nd photo above the date ...... notice the 'low seven'?

3. The last three letters in "Liberty" are always weakly struck on a small date ..... yours are worn but fully struck.

Keep on searching!

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 Posted 11/09/2010  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh woe is me alas alas then I too was thinking it was probably the large date
but needed to verify with you expert folks. Thanks a lot. I'm keeping it to attract
its small sister or brother home to us
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 Posted 11/09/2010  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Waredu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a large date. 3 of the 4 major diagnostics are evident.

1) the top of the 7 is set lower than the 9 and the 0
2) the head of the 9 (the opposite end from the tail) is blunt and pointed towards the mint mark
3) LIBERTY is relatively strongly struck

With a small date

1) the top of the 7 is level with the 9 and 0
2) the head of the 9 is hooked and points more towards the 0
3) LIBERTY is weakly struck, especially the E and Y

The fourth diagnostic is on the 7. It is a crease where the top of the 7 meets the leg of the 7. Look at the molding around a doorframe - the diagonal line at the corners where the molding joins is what you're looking for on the 7. You can't tell by these pics whether or not the line is there.
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 Posted 11/09/2010  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks a lot to you all for those great diagnostics for this one. I've also just been
browsing sites showing examples of this 1970 S too.

Is there small and large dates for the D and P mints too? or just S? I have a D 1970
so just wondering if I need to ID the date type.
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 Posted 11/09/2010  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can - easily...the line is there. It's a large date.
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 Posted 11/09/2010  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes the line is obvious to me too. I can also zoom on my computer
to see bigger images than I can post in here. Thanks for your input Coppercoins :)
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Dottir, I believe the S is the only small date for 1970.
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Thanks Maineman750! :)
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 Posted 11/09/2010  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I inverted the colors for easier definitions looksee ;)

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Ok, blown up with reversed colors I can see it. Guess these old eyes are starting to go on me :(
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My eyes are going too, age and side effects of meds too I'm sure.
That don't stop me from pursueing an interest in coins now though
either. Guess I like a challenge :)
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I can see the differences to the dates and mint marks on this year and can
clearly see mine is large date as well, seeing by the direction of the 9 and
the shape of the S - meaning I'm learning to see what you all are seeing too!

Thank you all, and thanks Coop for the images here and in the other thread
about large and small dates & MM's too :)
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