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 Posted 11/27/2010  02:02 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Waredu to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Get all those uncirculated world coins that is. Coin show after coin show, I see several dealers with binder upon binder chock full of world coins, most of them BU. Any time I ask, I always get "I know a guy".

I want to know those "guys" too.
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 Posted 11/27/2010  02:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add insideout to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Shop I go to pays for darksiders by the pound. you would be surprised at the amount of people that come in a shop wanting to sell them.
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 Posted 11/27/2010  02:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's often the case of people going overseas and most of the time, they can't spend them all or when they bring them back, no one wants them or the banks wouldn't change it for them.

So they just sell it to the coin shop for whatever they can, usually in terms of mere dollars. Or dealers just break up mintsets and they often get better money for doing so.
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There are a couple of local dealers here in Australia, and a couple in the US I know online (like joelscoins and diggafromdover) that always seem to have plenty of brand-new, unc world coins and sets of world coins on offer. I've also gotten the same vague answers when asking about their sources. A whole bunch of identical sets of BU coins isn't going to come from the random pocketings of returning travellers or tourists. Dealers with that kind of stock usually have a specialist source.

I suspect these mysterious "guys" are overseas, and probably deal in bulk world coinage, by ordering bulk bags direct from the mints or banks in the countries involved. Good journalists protect their sources, good coin dealers do, too. And I can understand why. If you ordered your coins from the same "guy", he'd want to sell you coins by the kilogram, too. So you'd end up having to become a dealer, just to get rid of all the coins you wouldn't want. And most dealers aren't too keen on seeing more competition established, especially if the new competitor would be trying to sell more or less exactly what they're selling, to the same customer base.

I wouldn't try to press them too hard for more information, either. "Beware the advice of successful people. They do not seek company." - Dogbert.
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Forgot to add a possible example of one such coin wholesaler: Mietens, in Germany.
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I really cannot think of anyone else (anywhere), who is quite as knowledgeable about foreign coins and paper money as you are Sap.....I am very greatly impressed...

This causes me to wonder....what do you do in your off time? Do you wrestle crocs and and box with 'roos, or simply hang out with a large can of Fosters in each hand?
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 Posted 11/27/2010  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
This causes me to wonder....what do you do in your off time?


He looks at coins.
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Once in my wandering through the internet I stumbled across an "educational" site that sold bulk uncirculated present day coins from many countries. The quantities had to be in 100's or 1000's to purchase.
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I know of at least one company in Europe that is wholesale dealer in foreign coins.
It does not sell to individuals.
I believe they have contacts to several mints.
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Mietens in Germany carries about every world coin or paper note imaginable. You have to purchase from them wholesale quantities and pay by euro transfer.
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My local dealer takes a lot of them in. Many people collect these in their travels and save them. Eventually, they usually end up in a dealers hands. My dealer seems to only save the UNC, silver and the valuable coins. I'm not sure what he does with the circ garbage stuff. I'll ask him next time I see him.
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When I used to work for a local dealer, I would either break up a world unc or proof set and sell individualy. I also cherrypicked world coins after collections would be aquired. I would go through 50lb bags of junk misc coins that were bought from large sorting and wrapping companies. Anything that was not worth booking would end up in a large open bin for customers to buy by the pound.

Exchange houses here and away don't like to receive back coins and thus many are stuck with something that might not be worth the expense and hassle to convert.
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 Posted 11/28/2010  08:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a seller at a local flea market that has bins full of foreign coins and many appear to have just been made yesterday. And he sells them in bulk quantities.
HMMMM, is China now mass producing coins from all over the World?
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I wouldn't be surprized!
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 Posted 11/29/2010  01:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brokencompass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wish I could work for one such wholesaler! I would go through tons of coins one by one and snag the ones I like :P
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 Posted 12/01/2010  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cajun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have often wondered this myself!
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