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America The Beautiful Circulating Coin Set Quality Issue

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 Posted 12/10/2010  1:04 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add stormdog123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Is an America the Beautiful Circulating Coin Set with two Grand Canyon Denver quarters but no Yosemite Denver quarter worth anything?

Or should I just send it back and get a replacement set. The US mint is sending me a postage paid sticker so it wouldn't cost me anything to send it back.
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The sets are not truly sealed. They are easy to open, remove/replace coins, and close. Because of this, there is no reason it would have any premium value. Anyone could easily make a set like this.

I would send it back because you bought five quarters, not four with a duplicate.
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 Posted 12/12/2010  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gilgerr24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To bad it wasn't sealed like a mint set, or proof set. ebay would have made you some money. I would send it back too.
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I agree with jbuck. I would send it back and get the correct set.
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To bad it wasn't sealed like a mint set, or proof set. ebay would have made you some money.
I do not recall exactly what year it changed, but the earlier modern proof sets (1968 to about the mid 1990's) were glued in spots and opening them would leave obvious signs. The proof sets since around the mid-1990's have been easy to open and easy to close.

I just read noticed this part (emphasis added)...

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Is an America the Beautiful Circulating Coin Set...


I believe those sets are sealed...

https://goccf.com/t/75863#610115

Does yours look like this?

America-The-Beautiful-Circulating-Coin-Set-Quality-Issue

If so, it might be worth something on ebay. I do not see how one could alter the contents of this set.
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 Posted 12/14/2010  1:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stormdog123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is the set I have.
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Without having it in hand, I cannot be sure, but do you think it is possible that the duplicate coin was switched out after the set was created? If not, then it might be worthwhile to sell it. It is something to consider.
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I got the set directly from the mint. I doubt the mint switched the coin. Nothing looks odd about the set except the duplicate coin.
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Sorry, I was not implying it had been switched by someone, I was speaking hypothetically. That is, do you think you could switch one out without notice? If so, then send it back. If not, then it may be worth a premium to someone that is interested in that sort of mistake by the mint.
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The circulating quarter set is fairly well sealed as it comes from the mint. That plastic in the above picture (my scan) is very heavy and heat sealed, unlike modern proof sets in the plastic lenses that aren't sealed at all, I think a switch would show for sure. So, an error set should be worth a little more than you paid for it but I doubt that it would be worth much more, perhaps not even enough to pay for shipping it to a buyer. I really wish the mint would put tamper evident seals on the lenses used on proof coins to prevent people from buying lots of sets and cherry picking PR70s and them returning the rejects to be sold to other collectors. This is part of why I always buy these sets when they first come out, so I know I am not getting returns.
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That plastic in the above picture (my scan)
I hope you did not mine me borrowing your photo. (I did link to the original post).


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I really wish the mint would put tamper evident seals on the lenses used on proof coins
That would be nice. It would not stop me from opening them to fill my albums, but it would stop the cherry-picking.
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Please feel free to use any images that I upload for any purpose that you choose. The tamper evident thing has bothered me for some time. I like being able to get the coins out easily and without damaging the packaging and I hated that I had to break the plastic to get coins out of 80s lenses because they were glued. I just wish that the fact I have opened the lens was obvious to all. A simple holographic sticker like the ones used on software and CDs/DVDs would do the trick.
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I do not recall exactly what year it changed, but the earlier modern proof sets (1968 to about the mid 1990's) were glued in spots and opening them would leave obvious signs. The proof sets since around the mid-1990's have been easy to open and easy to close.

The proof sets went to snap closed rather than sealed with the start of the State Quarters in 1999.
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You are probably correct. I could have sworn that my 1995 or 1996 set was the first that was easy to open, but it may have just been a weaker glue job. I will have to pull out my box of empty lenses and OGP material to be certain.

I do know for a fact that all three of my Prestige Proof Sets are not glued. They are basically the regular lenses (with different inserts) installed into a secondary plastic container. Both lenses and container are just snapped together.
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It looks original to me. I am curious what this might bring if you sold it. However, the premium might not be worth the effort, as clairhardesty said earlier.
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