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1936 Mercury Dime - Proof Vs Mint State Difference

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I have been looking around at pictures of Mercury dimes (I just bought a very nice 1936 example) that have been graded by NGC and PCGS. I cannot tell the difference between the proof and mint states of the coins. It isn't as simple as with modern coins - with the raised areas being 'frosted' and background having a mirrored finish - a real no-brainer. I've seen coins that are graded as 'mint state' as well as 'proof' that both have what appears to be the same amount of brilliance and finish...

Can anyone post pictures/give me any ideas of what to look for to tell the difference? Thanks a ton!
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1936 is the only year that has two different types of finishes made for proof. The common Brilliant Finish and the uncommon Satin Finish.

And there are some that's having "less than brilliant finish" that falls in between. These type and the Satin finish have extreme highpoint detail lacking in the common Brilliant Finish which were used for the rest of the proofs that follows.

There are few Satin Finish that survived being they were probably cleaned at one point, so in general those are the ones that's being the most wanted.
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Look at the rim. The rim will be perpendicular to the field on proofs and business strikes have a slight slope on the field up to the rim. I am not an expert on earlier proofs, so there could be exceptions that I am unaware of.
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When I first started collecting coins I had the same problem as you are experiencing. To make matters worse I didn't even know what mint state meant! I did know what proofs were and I have no idea as to how I knew that. It just takes time, a lot of study and hands on knowledge in order to tell the differences between the two. It can be very tricky at times just like you said regarding mint state vs. proof. Usually proofs are very well struck and the devices are very sharp. Also look at the fields and look for mirror quality. Of course to make things more confusing there are coins that are called deep mirror proof like, deep proof like, semi-proof like and proof like. These coins are among the first to be struck when the dies are highly polished, thus creating a proof looking coin. As the dies wear the proof like strikes go away and thus you get mint state strikes. I still have trouble with some coins distinguishing between mint state vs. proof but it has become much easier the more I study and look at coins, so don't feel like the Lone Ranger on this!
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Thanks so much for your advice, folks! I'm finding that the more that I try to educate myself about coin collecting, the thing that I keep figuring out is that there is just always more -a LOT more - to learn!
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