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Paid $10.00 for this today. What do you think?   |
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VG10/cleaned
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Edited by vermontensium
12/30/2010 7:18 pm
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Definitely cleaned, if you can see any of the I in liberty the coin may make F-12, if not I agree with the VG-10.
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what would make you think of this as "the big one"? I think you paid a little more than what I have seen others in this condition sell for. The 1883 No Cents is readily available in super high grades so these usually sell for a couple dollars from what I have seen. Is there something I am missing about the coin that makes this one special? I do not know the series very well and the only ones I have is the ones my grandfather left me and the ones I have in my dansco 7070 album so if I am missing something please let me know what it is so you can educate me on this series. Since this is in the grading forum I looked at the PCGS photograde app and I agree with the VG10 net grade when considering the cleaning but has F12 details
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That's why my topic started out with "I think" . According to The Standard Catalog of World Coins 1801-1900 6th Edition (2010) page 1255. It list the 1883 as follows: Pn1802 1883 -5 Cents. Nickel.
Plain edge. J1714. $3,750
Pn1803 1883 -5 Cents. Nickel.
Plain edge. J1715. $6,500
Pn1804 1883 -5 Cents.
Aluminum. Plain edge. J1716
$7,500
This is all it list. Does not give a value for the different grades. That is why I'm posting it as "I Think" I'm hoping to have made a good purchase based on the values that it does list. So, Am I missing something?
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yours is a "No Cents nickel, not one that has cents on it, so its very very common. The RedBook lists a f12 with cents 1883 nickel at $8.00 and RedBook is always allot higher than you should ever pay. As I said above I have seen them sell in this condition for a dollar or two. There were two different versions of the 1883 V nickel, one with no cents on the reverse and one that was made after over half of the year was done with the word cents added, the one with cents was minted allot less time than the other so its more rare. You are looking at the price of the one that has "cents" on the reverse in the book. this is the one that has the Cents on it for this date http://cgi.ebay.com/1883-Liberty-ni...em4cf018cef9 |
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Ok, Please explain what a No Cents nickel is. The only difference I saw was that Liberty is not spelled out above the head. It is just stars. The other ones pictured in the Krause book are not close to this.
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Those are prices for pattern coins I think.
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Jaymon74, I think your book is listing several rare pattern coins that were sold at auction. The coin that you bought looks like a typical 1883 no cents Liberty nickel. |
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all Liberty nickels should have LIBERTY on the head dress thingy (can't think of what its called right now) . I do not have a krous book so can't tell you what you are looking at, all I can say is the one you have is the common V nickel with no cents on the Reverse. I am sure others will be in here to help you with explaining what you are looking at in the book you have, but I suspect what the others above have said is correct and its some type of pattern or something since you say the ones in the book do not have "cents" on the Reverse |
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1883 was the first year for the Liberty nickel. Initially, the coin did not state "CENTS" on the reverse. People began gold plating them and passing them off as $5 coins. Later in 1883, the mint started putting CENTS on the nickels to eliminate this problem. |
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On the headband is where Liberty is located on the Liberty or V nickel. On the Reverse under the wreath in 1883 there were two major varieties. One has E PLURIBUS UNUM like yours does and the other has CENTS instead. Back in the day there were coin designers that made pattern designs for new coinage that was to be redesigned or introduced. There are many "patterns" that were made and often they had extremely low mintage and are rare. I think if you look in your RedBook of United States coins in the back end of it you will find quite a few. You can also Google coin patterns and it will help you. On ebay you can do a search for US patterns in the Coins and Paper money and see some too. There are usually a handful of old patterns and there are also modern ones. Edited by TNG
12/30/2010 8:14 pm
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I was just getting ready to give him the history on why they changed them. They called the plated nickels racketeer nickels because people were plating them and fooling people into thinking they were $5.00 instead of $0.05
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The "no Cents" makes "no Sense" because I'm looking at 1883. Of course it does not have "cents" under the V. It also does not make sence because I'm not seeing an 1883 that matches or is described exactly like this one. I.E. the 1882 has "United States of America" on the obverse. The 1883 shown in the book has "Liberty" and Stars on the obverse. This 1883 has only stars. I really don't care if I got "jipped" it's only $10.00. I was only hoping that I made a good find today. Obviously I didn't. The only info I had to go by was what I have in front of me, and it pointed to that I may have. If you all say I got suckered, then so be it.
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there were no 1882 with this design minted from the US Mint unless it was a pattern. 1883 was the first year this coin was put into circulation. here is more information about the coin that was placed into circulation like the one you are showing here http://www.coincommunity.com/us_nic...y_head_v.asp . The 1883 No Cents mintage was Circulation Strikes: 5,474,300 Proof Strikes: 5,219 . these numbers are for the 1883 No Cents, and the 1883 With Cents I believe and there are much less 1883 With Cents than the one without it |
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I saw that the headband has "liberty" (and yes the I is visible) But, the one pictured in the book has L I B E are T Y above the head with stars on both sides running down to the date. Mine only has stars as you can see. I do not have a RedBook. I collect world coins so went with the Krause version. So I'm guessing that this book is missing illustrations? It mentions nothing of "cents" for this year either. So basically I'm more confused than I started.  |
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