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aladinslamp Pillar of the Community United States 3076 Posts	Posted 01/04/2011 01:36 am hey Dad, I would like to know how long a "cleaned" coin would have to "age" to get such toning? Report this Post to the Staff
zeewool Pillar of the Community 3660 Posts	Posted 01/04/2011 10:55 am I would kinda like to see that coin again with some lighting that might bring out the more the in hand look.... I might gain a better appreciation for toning if I could see things in a different light... Report this Post to the Staff
SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 01/04/2011 11:37 am Quote: I would like to know how long a "cleaned" coin would have to "age" to get such toning? A few months, in my personal experience. Report this Post to the Staff
Morgans Dad Pillar of the Community United States 5622 Posts	Posted 01/04/2011 7:55 pm "hey Dad," I would venture a guess and Dave basically said it all. This is just my opinion, I do NOT see many actual detailed grades given, here or any other times people ASK for our opinions on the grade? I would like to compare other's grading opinions when members ask, I just do NOT see them............. Zee, toning is like grading, all subjective, and according to who you ask, I personally, love a well toned coin, I remember a 1895-S Eliasberg Morgan silver dollar with some rather bizarre( to me ) toning and it sold for a small fortune...... Report this Post to the Staff
twohawks Pillar of the Community United States 1551 Posts	Posted 01/04/2011 7:58 pm Here are 4 photos in a row that have a slight angle change. I like the color and I bought it in a lot for 31.00 each so grade was not what I was looking for. In the group there was an 1896 O that has an ugly dull light hue to it and is nothing less then a high AU at the same price. That was one of the reasons I bought all 30 of them. The dealer looked over them 3 times and did not jump up and down and say "Did you see the 1896 O in there". I liked the look and it is one of the owners options. If you like buy it kind of things. Report this Post to the Staff
Morgans Dad Pillar of the Community United States 5622 Posts	Posted 01/04/2011 8:09 pm Let's be clear Gene, you state, " Quote: I would like to know how long a "cleaned" coin would have to "age" to get such toning?" I am of the opinion you are talking about the already toned portion of the coin, IMO, Years. If you are speaking about the cleaned portion of this coin to tone, months or much longer, IMO, You would have to take many things in to account, what was used to clean the coin, how much of it was used, etc, to get a definitive answer. I really have NOT seen members give an in depth, detailed grade to most grades given on this forum, I really wish members would give their experience in writing, to see where we as a learning comunity stands in this arena.......Instead of MS-63!! Report this Post to the Staff
twohawks Pillar of the Community United States 1551 Posts	Posted 01/04/2011 8:38 pm Morgans Dad, I agree with you all the way on the grading. It is an opinion as always and differ with everyone. But if we talk about it and give each other our viewpoints and why we all will learn. As this was my post I have know problem with it getting a little high-jacked. When you placed your opinion on this post I was and am not offended by it at all, Just so you know. Every date in the Morgan dollar seem to have a grading curve that is a little different it seems. I think I understand why in some cases. Look at the 1880 S Morgans a larger number where struck strongly unlike say an 1884 O type coin. Most of them where weakly struck and few even have a good solid strike. So the way they are seen in the eyes TPG companies is different. Right, Wrong or Indifferent, that is how they grade. I have the PCGS grading guild and they kind of address it in the book. I MS-63 1880 S will look much nicer then that of the same grade in a 1884 O coin. Report this Post to the Staff
Morgans Dad Pillar of the Community United States 5622 Posts	Posted 01/04/2011 9:06 pm Russ, I sincerly apologize for the hijacking, It was NOT intentional, I was just not thinking..... Report this Post to the Staff
zeewool Pillar of the Community 3660 Posts	Posted 01/04/2011 9:30 pm Wow Russ, you must really have a thing for blue coins....I didn't really care for that first one that started the thread, but these last four are all pretty nice coins... are they all the same VAM? Anyway, I think my favorites are the first and third ones (out of these last four)..... Thanks a lot for showing them... (all of them)... I really do appreciate it Russ, the differences in lighting can really make a difference (more than I had suspected)... this was a pretty substantial learning thread (for me).... Report this Post to the Staff
twohawks Pillar of the Community United States 1551 Posts	Posted 01/04/2011 10:15 pm It is the same coin with just 4 different angles in hand to show the light reflection. Report this Post to the Staff
zeewool Pillar of the Community 3660 Posts	Posted 01/04/2011 10:25 pm Yeah, I know Russ.... just joshin' with you buddy.... (I'm really not that stupid).. It is a BEAUTIFUL coin after all.. Report this Post to the Staff
twohawks Pillar of the Community United States 1551 Posts	Posted 01/04/2011 10:31 pm I have never thought you where!! In the sunlight it is a great looking coin. To me well worth scrap plus a few bucks. BTW I hope you had a great and safe New Year! Russ Report this Post to the Staff
zeewool Pillar of the Community 3660 Posts	Posted 01/04/2011 10:49 pm Thanks Russ, I hope that it is turning out well for you too. Have you found any more interesting coins lately? Anything that could challenge my heightened level of arrogance/ignorance? Report this Post to the Staff
twohawks Pillar of the Community United States 1551 Posts	Posted 01/04/2011 11:06 pm Well I posted a few what I think are going to be new ones on you know where but I will post a few here in an hour or so. Ohio State is playing Report this Post to the Staff
zeewool Pillar of the Community 3660 Posts	Posted 01/04/2011 11:10 pm Yeah, I heard about the game.... should be pretty good, I think that they are playing Euclid High School. Ohio Sate can use the practice, and Euclid H.S. can use the win..... Report this Post to the Staff
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