RPM Cent Values And An Odd 1960 Variety

Here is the best I could do so far with that picture - only can get part of the 6.

That is a normal 6 for the small date.

Joeyuk - is there a site where they post a clear picture of all the digits of the small date? I wish I could show the rest of the coin here. But the file is simply huge and I can't figure how to get it down to reasonable size. The 9 also has a very odd looking feature. It definitely seems to be a round over square tail. That could be a hub feature and all small date 1960 coins may have it. I checked Breen and this is definitely a small date die because the 1 in the date is clearly HIGHER than the 9 - but he shows neither of the features I see here. Why doesn't Breen mention it? These two features are far clearer to me than the position of the 1. I now have found 5 identical copies of the 1960 with both features - four are identical down to the die scratches but the 5th copy is from a much later die showing deterioration and additional rather deep scratch lines with a totally different orientation.

Anyway, here is the tail of the 9. I also checked the copper website but couldn't get it to work this morning. I will try again later.



Metalman - I don't think this is a striking double. I am finding some of those as well and this one is different. It could be a hubbing double where the master hub moves during the hubbing process but even that seems doubtful. I think it is two different master hub impressions one over the other.

Here is one of the mechanically (strike) doubled coins that I have found so far. Again pardon the size but the coin is a 1957 D. All 4 digits of the date show Strike Doubling - I picked the 9 because on that digit the lower shelf like appearance is the clearest.




Looking through this old accumulation is increasing my interest in US coins a small amount. I don't think I will give up on counterfeits or substitute US for Mexican any time soon, but these die varieties were not that well know when I made the conversion away from modern US to the early Republic issues. So this has become a learning exercise for me. I have found two more RPMs both 1960 D and I am just now appreciating how many of these there are. So far I have searched only 50 loose coins. This project will likely take all winter.

Not a great investment cost/time ratio. But fun.

The following link is to the die variety search feature on coppercoins site for 1960 cents. Page 11 starts some small date coins. Start with 1960D-1MM-101 and look at the pics. They show the same 6 you have and they are only listed as RPM's. They have many small dates listed with a pic. showing the 6.

http://www.coppercoins.com/diesearc...1960&page=10

Here is what all the coins in my 1960-D sm date roll look like. I never noticed it before but you can see the 9 is squared off.

Joeyuk - correct me if I am wrong but doesn't the citation under 1960D-1MM-100 which says "This die is also listed as 1960D-1DO-001." mean that at least someone classified it as a Doubled Obverse die? Now that could simply mean that all small dates may in fact be double dies (created from a doubled hub) and that the 1DO reference has since been dropped.

Your 1960 D clearly shows the same squared tail under the round tail as my P versions - so until I find a small date without these features I will assume that all small date coins P and D share this common hub variety.

Metalman on two of my copies I see one or two letters primarily the angle of the G in IN GOD WE TRUST where there seems to be a doubled corner. Since it requires a particularly strong/clear strike to see the "split" - not all the coins exhibit that feature.

heres mine

Here is one I pulled from a roll.