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While we are on the subject of help I must admit, your computer was broken and so your call on the phone, just does quite help the call for help....My meaning is....its very hard to have a one on one meeting of the mind from just descriptions, as people describe things differently.......While your searching for the BIG BOOK....encyclopedia, got mine on ebay, or Amazon.com for a great price..there are other online sites.. Until then go to VamWorld and read- copy- steal- print the basics so you can have the basics of the VAM-LINGO so we also can better understand...AND you must post pictures. SO we can all be on the same page....I wouldn't have any one fix my car over the phone....or by Texting.... We do look forward to your posting pics as this is the best way we can see and tell you what we see...and your learning also increases with what little you have to work with....
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Ok guys, I'll do what ya'll said, then figure out the picture sending & then return when I have a better understanding of what I am talking about. Thanks for the help. By the way just got my newest addition a 1879 P.
Edited by rlcbj59 01/12/2011 09:03 am
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Just remember you don't have to go Just work on the picture thing then the flood doors will open... 
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Alright, I'll do that. I'm reading vamworld attribution + 101, very good learning information there, am going to print everything I can from there while I look for the books.
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 Great Idea, I'll check back after work...
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I've been reading till my eye's hurt & i"m learning a lot however, I'm looking at a 1879 Morgans on ebay & I am still having a little trouble with identification. I have to look at the cheaper coins & there are a few that say they are the 78 reverse but for the life of me I count 7 feathers. The arrow is SAF, Wagon wheel type for sure, But what else do I look for? 1 says 3rd die so I assume this is good correct? 
Edited by rlcbj59 01/13/2011 07:08 am
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I'm gonna try to get the pictures on in a few, I think I have it. Nope this is driving me Crazy, I downloaded Ifran but rt. click on mouse gives no options, left click sends to upload then error, HELP.
Edited by rlcbj59 01/13/2011 07:44 am
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Yes, you are having trouble understanding what your reading. The 1879 Morgans all have 7 tail feathers. The reverse of '78 ( B rev) means that it will have parell arrow feathers and the 3rd reverse (rev of '79 or C rev) means it will have slanted arrow feathers. The 8 tail feather coins were only made in 1878. Hope this helps.
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Yes it does I've been butt backwards looking at the wrong coins. One more question please, the VAM's no matter what shape they are in are worth buying,yes? Ok make it 2 questions, are the vams the only Morgans that I should buy (3 sorry) & Does every year have a VAM vs. common Morgan?
Edited by rlcbj59 01/13/2011 09:13 am
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If I'm understanding this right, all years are VAM's, but do to die cracking etc... certain Morgans oh heck I just confused myself. Backto reading! 
Edited by rlcbj59 01/13/2011 09:34 am
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All Morgan and Peace dollars are VAMs or waiting to be discovered and become VAMs. Most VAMs are only worth what we call common money (no premium) so learning how to tell them apart is what Vamming is all about. What they call Cherry Picking is when you pay common money for a VAM that is worth more then what you pay for it. At this stage of your game, I really don't think you should be paying more than common money for your coins. Common money is the amount of money a common date morgan is worth and varies year to year and mint mark. Coin value magazines are not the best places to find pricing (too high), so maybe a Grey Sheet would be better for you and then you can still get burned if you don't know how to grade coins. Its one of the reasons we always tell newbies to buy the books and learn before buying. There are no short cuts in this hobby. Some people learn by reading and some by watching, and some just have to whiz on that electric fence!
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Yeah I'm starting to get it, I'm reading attributions+101 on the VAM page and looking at the pictures of the VAM's to figure out what I'm looking at. I guess it's like 1st grade, gonna take a little work but I'll get it & in time I'll actually make sense when I ask a question? Thanks, Lee.
Edited by rlcbj59 01/13/2011 09:43 am
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Ok, I think I finally have it, the 1879 7TF Rev78 has SAF w/7 tail feathers, wagon wheel witch would be (die) A correct? 
Edited by rlcbj59 01/13/2011 2:04 pm
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Let's try this again. When the Morgan dollar first came out, on the reverse the eagle had eight tailfeathersThe Audubon Society (ornithologist) said the eagle was anatomically incorrect. The mint tried a 'do over' by re-stamping with seven tail feathers. All this did was make seven over eight tail feather varieties. (remnants of the eight tail feathers were peeking through, Midway in 1878, the mint went strictly with seven tail feather dies. These are referred to as reverse of '79 dies. These have a slanted top arrow feather. The mint decided to (supposedly) destroy those old dies. These are referred to as reverse of 78. These have a parallel top tail feather. Well in 1879 and in 1880 these old dies with the reverse of 78 showed up. They showed up in San Francisco and Carson City. So eight tail feather coins are only found on 1878 Philadelhia minted coins. So far 23 varieties found. VAMs 1-23 Seven over eight tail feather coins are found on 1878 Philadelphia coins. So far 23 varities found. VAMs 30-45
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Alright, just bought a 1879 SAF, I think 8 feathers maybe, I just need to know if the 8th feather is between the olive branch & the arrows? Only paid 32.00 so either way I have something to compare to.
Edited by rlcbj59 01/13/2011 3:24 pm
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