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1878 S Morgan, Is This A Form Of Doubling. Liberty & Leaves

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Hello all
Was looking at this 1878S.
The Liberty looks like it could be doubled. Then the edge of one of the leaves looks doubled, or is that a weak strike. And almost forgot about the tail feathers, Is that doubling or just the way image appears though Stereo Scope. I'm somewhat new to the Morgans. I haven't really studied more than how to grade them. I do see 1878 Morgans Doubling examples on Coin Facts,PCGS. But it doesn't list any under S MM.

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 Posted 01/26/2011  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Las_Vegas_Larry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have you tried VAM world? I took a quick look but did not see adoubling that looked like yours.
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 Posted 01/26/2011  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amassey08873 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Vegas, Thanks for the site. Never knew about it. Just took a quick look but looks like I'll be spending a whole lot of time on their. Thank You Thank You Thank You. I'm off to VAM WOrld
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 Posted 01/26/2011  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi and , yes there are 1878-s mint marks which have the doubling of liberty. it was a common feature back then as Philidephia made all the dies for all the mints that made coins....A common feature as the procedure for the making of A NEW coin image into a die, had many problems. As they were required to produce and input more silver coinage into the market than ever before....this resulted in some facinating varieties .. and perhaps 1878 could very well be very heart of the whole vamming idea...every possible "error" if you will,
can be found in this series......Post some full photo's of what you have..I'm sure there are many here who can help you figure out just one you have, the doubling alone is just one minor point of the whole...
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 Posted 01/29/2011  07:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amassey08873 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info Aladin, Here is the coin the other photos are from. I used my evo to take pics through the eye lens of my Stereo Scope. Then used Evo to crop and zoom in. I wanted to post these as well cause seeing is believing. Some thing happened to my computer, what ever tells the drivers to load somehow failed(s). So I get error messages on certain apps. or nothing at all when I try to scan. Or I would of posted new pics. And the macro on my cell phone isn't the best So I hope these will do. I was looking over VAM World and am amazed by the attention to detail, Then how the info was broken down and explained. Being able to define the hub(s) has added a whole new enjoyment to Morgans for me.
So here is the 1878S Obv & Rev.





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 Posted 01/29/2011  2:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Try looking at vams 9 and 72, the broken B identifies the obverse die..with coin in hand you should get somewhere..
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 Posted 01/30/2011  06:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amassey08873 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1878-S VAM-7 Doubled LIBERTY & Wheat Leaves, Engraved Wing Feather
Discovered by George Mallis, March 1968.

This is what I've found so far. Looks pretty good. Cant thank you enough for such a wonderful website. I'll post any others I can find. Thanks
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 Posted 01/30/2011  10:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You need to look at aladinslamp's post again. Your coin appears to have a "smoking gun" feature which immediately narrows it down to just a few VAMs - the broken "B" in "PLURIBUS."
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 Posted 05/18/2011  03:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amassey08873 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was just going over my posts, and wanted to say thank you again, Aladinslamp you really rock with that VAM World site. I've only scratched the surface of whats available. Super Dave you were right on over read it in the excitement;-) But thank you. My wife just received a new scanner for school. It works pretty good I'll post some better pics within the next few days. Thanks Again.
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 Posted 05/18/2011  07:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add southsav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree, aladinslamp has it narrowed down for you. I would suggest you not only use VW, but join also. Good luck!
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