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Guadalupe Y Calvo. 8 Reales, 1845-Mp - Whats It Worth

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 Posted 02/02/2011  5:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Cosmic to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
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I recently found a coin when going through a box of my fathers stuff.. I was wondering what is was worth...It is in pretty good condition. Someone made it into a pendant and it has markings, says "*8R.M,1845.M.F.10D.20G" and "LIBEREAD" in the middle on one side.Also it has "REPUBLICA MEXICANA" on the bird side. Nice and heavy.

To see it go here:
http://www.resplandores.us/mexico/
It is the 1845 one

Thanks

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 Posted 02/02/2011  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RealPeso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Cosmic,

You might want to ask a mod to move your question over to the world coin forum section, you will probably get some more responses over there.

If your coin is legit it should weigh approx 27.1 grams or very close however the assayers initials for the Guadalupe and Calvo mint were M.P. not M.F.
The link you posted is for a Guanajuato Mint 8R coin with initials P.M.
Judging from the info you posted about your coin it sounds like you probably have a 1845 Mexico City 8 Reales wich did have the initials M.F.

Try to post a couple of pics of the coin so we can tell you for sure what kind of 8 Reales coin you have. As far as value it depends on condition, the Mexico City and Guanajuato 8R's usually average from $40 to $60 online or more if in uncirculated condition or if you have a rare variety. If it is low grade, worn or damaged it will only be worth melt value. (around $20)

If it does turn out to be a Guadalupe & Calvo 8R in good condition without any damage from when it was a pendant then it will be worth substantially more. The 8R's from this mint are pretty rare.
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 Posted 02/03/2011  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The only way to know what you have are to see actual photos of the coin in question.

Based on the comments you made


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"*8R.M,1845.M.F.10D.20G" and "LIBEREAD"


The coin is from Mexico City (the M will have a small o above it.) If the small o is not there it is a counterfeit and probably worth more than a common original. The assayer initials MF are correct for 1845 at the Mexico City mint. There were 14 mints that operated at various times in Mexico and all of them that were in operation in 1845 produced significantly different looking coins. The dies were mostly hand punched at that time so variation is the norm.

Add to that the fact that you said it had been made into a pendant - and you clearly have the possibility of a circulating counterfeit version as well. Counterfeits were often "drill cancelled" by adding a hole. This effectively stopped coins from circulating because the hole removed silver. The hole served also as a way to string counterfeits together for use on a teller line so that known forgeries would not be accepted at banks. That practice was still in place in Massachusetts until the aearly 1900s.

So please post a photograph and I am sure we can identify what you have and it's value. Right now I would say it could run from a low of $15 (for a common non-silver fake) to a high of $200 depending on what it actually is.
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