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Devices flattened, especially close to rim. Almost suspected PMD, but the die crack running through the are on reverse rules that out.Is this just a heavily grease filled strike ?   |
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i am far from the expert- here, but probably - struck trough grease. I am only saying that, because anything that I have posted, looking similar to that, struck thorugh was the answer - from the "big boys".
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I'm also far from an expert but it sure looks like PMD. I do see areas where you could say struck through because the scratches do not appear to be present. I can't wait to see an explanation on this one. |
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It's a simple case of a weak strike. The devices are not filled in all the way. Doesn't that just make sense?
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coppercoins...thanks...sometimes the obvious is hardest to see.
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Grease is one possibility, especially since some areas are extra sharp, as if the metal filled them because it couldn't go where the grease was.
There's a lot of weak areas on both sides, could it be a thin (lighter weight) planchet?
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Definitely a weak strike- could possibly have been caused by a slightly thin planchet. What's the weight of the coin?
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Weight is 2.5 grams..thickness and diameter are correct too.I'm with coppercoins on this one..weak strike and maybe a little grease in some areas
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This coin was Struck Through Grease. The gunk tends to accumulate in the deepest recesses of the die face as well as at the periphery. The full rim and uneven pattern of weakness is consistent with this diagnosis. Grease also leaves a flatter appearance to the hair, cheek, base of bust, and other high relief areas, at least in copper-plated zinc cents. Error coin writer and researcher.
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02/17/2011 12:26 pm
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You know...I agree 100% with Mike on this one (not that I would need to say so - he's an expert in his own right)...but I thought I'd mention that I was wrong in my first assessment and should have seen it right away. The main difference between a weak strike and a Grease Filled Die strike is that with a weak strike only the deepest recesses of the die would be affected, and with grease it's a random thing - any part of the design can be affected. In this particular case the ear is completely filled in (which is one of the deepest areas of a Lincoln Cent) as well as the urns and steps on the memorial - again some of the deepest recesses. With a weak strike it would make no sense that these areas would be completely struck-up and the last A of AMERICA would be very weak. Answer - obviously grease. |
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My initial impression was also a weak strike, but now that some of the diagnostics of the deeper recesses being pointed out - I see it. Interesting Greaser. Maineman, why did you say this: Quote: Almost suspected PMD, but the die crack running through the are on reverse rules that out. Not sure how the two are related. |
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I just skipped that...they aren't related to one another in any way.
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Scooby, I said that because at first it looked flattened or dremeled...the die crack is raised and over the are...that's why I said what I said...kind of hard to flatten a letter and work around the crack.Can somebody point out how that is not relative to my ruling out PMD ? And thanks to the rest of you...good to see a little difference of opinion come to a consensus...and I love learning from the best...I can't get enough of that. |
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My bad. I was just trying to understand the thought process.
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Not your bad at all...I'm asking ...was I right in that deduction ?
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Umm, I guess that's my cue since I'm the one with a foot in his mouth. Actually if you pounded on a coin with something to flatten it something as small and insignificant as a die crack would be one of the last features to go...because it doesn't stand out much. That and the only die crack I can see runs from the building through the are of AMERICA and that's one of the least affected areas on the coin...so to say it wasn't PMD because the die crack is still there is - well, kinda irrelevant. |
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Posted 02/16/2011 6:44 pm
