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1837 No Stars Half Dime

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I bought this coin as a raw MS several years ago. When SuperDave organized a group submission to PCGS for forum members I sent this coin to be included. PCGS rejected it as "cleaned" (this was before they offered their Genuine service for problem coins). I later sent it back to PCGS and they once again rejected it, this time for "altered surface". I was uncomfortable leaving this tiny coin an a 2X2 holder so I recently sent it to ANACS, knowing they would slab it even if they found a problem. These are some of the outstanding photos SuperDave took of the raw coin in 2007. Care to guess how ANACS finally graded it?

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 Posted 02/17/2011  02:06 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it may have rim damage but I'd guess ANACS said AU50 details.
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If cleaned, it must be an old one. I like the look of the surfaces. The rim does look "filed", though I bet it's hardly noticable on such a tiny coin. I like it as AU-55/58.
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 Posted 02/17/2011  02:36 am  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
75% of the ANACS holders I see, have "cleaned" on them, or some other problem. This time, I am going to say that ANACS called this coin AU53 with no problems. The "rim damage" IMO, is not major enough to mention as a problem. Slight wipe awhile back, maybe. Nice coin.
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 Posted 02/17/2011  03:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the coin is at least AU-58 for detail.
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 Posted 02/17/2011  06:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cperry8483 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU-58 details
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I will say AU55. I'm not sure if it merits a details grade or not. I'm sure the rim hit looks better when it is not so magnified.
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This is a Nice coin. I wish I had it in my NGC certifed collection. AU-55
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It looks close to MS, but I agree with AU58 with the possibility of a details grade.
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Well, Vermontensium had it exactly right. It still looks MS to me, with intact luster throughout the fields (partly subdued by the toning). Perhaps there is some slight rub on Liberty's breasts and right thigh, enough to drop it to AU. From that point, maybe the obverse rim issue at 9:00 caused some net-grading. Nevertheless, ANACS called it as problem-free, despite the PCGS rejection history. They also noted a repunched date which I was unaware of and still don't see in the photos or in-hand.

I'm just happy to finally have gotten this little beauty into a problem-free slab.

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I would have thougth it would have net graded due to the marks at 9:00, but maybe they just net graded it due to the very nice look.
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