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Pillar of the Community
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Poll Question
What do you consider yourself relative to this hobby we call vamming?
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Pillar of the Community
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I'm still just beginning to learn about vaming. It is very addicting though.
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If there were a definition in the dictionary for the term "mid-level", how would it read, what would the answer be? Could you be a serious, mid-level Vammer?
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There are four levels a lot of other people use in other occupations. (1) Awareness (2) operations (3) technician (4) specialist.
In other words (1) don't touch anything! (2) Competent (3) very competent (4) extremely competent.
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Though this is a poll. I thought I would introduce some things...I can't buy often due to work...but through studies, one learns to see beyond the normal common Attributions. or pick up points.... I found this one this week...I post this not to toot my own horn but rather to share the idea of knowledge.. while we begin vamming we learn the basics of doubling and clashing and such...we begin to understand the basics of these Ideas and then move on from primary pick up points to secondary pick up points...to die markers...More specific in nature which will lead or should I say cut down the possibilities of the the unknown VAM...one could say its how you perceive the coin... OBVIOUS clashes and such narrow the possibilities...yet there are yet finger prints that are specific to the VAM...I introduce this coin as worn as it is so you all can see not the clashes but the other points that lead to a vams attribution...      Now with these photo's you can figure the VAM out...the year is 1891-0...the die cracks are the KEY... |
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Your 1891-O looks like VAM 15-A to me. 1891-O VAM-15A Doubled Profile & Ear, Die Break Above ED Discovered by Brian Raines, August 2002. 15A III29 ยท C3a (Doubled Profile & Ear, Die Break Above ED) (181) I-3 R-7 Reverse C3a-- Heavy die crack through tops of UNITED letters with diagonal die break from top right of E to rim above D. |
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IF I only had a brain..........   I apologize ! Edited by Morgans Dad
02/22/2011 11:33 pm
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Last February I bought a coin off of e-bay that was listed incorrectly. When I looked at the coin, all I saw was that it was PCGS MS 62 and that the pedigree said California. The listing said 1889-O VAM 2, it was in reality 1889-O VAM 6. I was so focused on the pedigree and wanting a California pedigree coin, I was oblivious to anything else. It is rather funny in retrospect to realize that we see what we want to see and nothing else. |
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Well I had to reply. can't keep my mouth shut LOL I know I/how you and others feel OZ....many time's we look for certain things.....over focused...and don't QUESTION.or not to look into the details.....which is what this is all about...I take home about $500 a month on a good month....its not about the money to me... Its about the details........ IN my humble eyes....... 1) A beginner learns about the vamming skills of attributes of doubling, clashing ECT. I will skip the newbie thing and go to intermediate.... 2)intermediate.....you have an an understanding somewhat. of what the clashes and attributions or rules which make a VAM...and easily see the basics of clashing a doubling in hand... 4)ADVANCED: THIS IS a difficult part here. to know where you are even if you are serious about collecting OR VAM's...I say this because many AS I who are in the spot....HAVE MONEY OR do not HAVE money....and do not play the VAM DOLLAR game..... but still research and strive to learn... 5)....SERIOUS VAMMER....WEATHER YOU HAVE MONEY OR NOT.... This is not the point, in fact most of us all fall into this category.....to study and learn....While some have all MUCH money it does not mean with your time and like them that you can not find good VAM's like I posted........its not MS65.. but thats not the point... we start with our own coins and study those presented so we can learn from what we can see....Where you fit in GROWS each and every day with your effort.. |
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Finding this website has turned me on to a really cool Hobby. Thank You Gentleman for helping me along the path to Vamming. Lee  Edited by rlcbj59
02/23/2011 1:26 pm
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Considering the number of Vammers on here, why are there so few responses? I would think this is where ya'll would all vote. I find it hard to believe that there are only 20 Vammers in the entire CCF.
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02/25/2011 8:48 pm
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rlcbj59
In my opinion there are some of the brightest Vammers on this site.
I have found over the years here that all specialize in one area or another or a few areas in Vamming, some concentrate on many aspects of the hobby and some do both and post and some do selective area studies, which they are very sharp at and just do not post, some post sometimes and In my opinion plenty of Vammers, for what ever reasons, lurk, they are not bad people just rather learn by reading and following those that post.
I venture you, once around for a while, will see my point, this is an excellent knowledge based arena for all levels of Vammers, beginners to extremely serious Vammers, I am not an expert by any means, I am a collecting student for 47+ years.......
There are a few sites where Vams are the only topic discussed, but the rules do not allow asking just any questions, with out a moderator taking control and soon punishments will follow, here, I have found you and the forum can and do discuss topics of your choice, and the knowledge you will find here with the kindness and willingness to share the knowledge is remarkable, very nice family oriented group, so, ask away and soon some one of the topic you seek answers to, will be along to assist you, good luck, Mike......
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Pillar of the Community
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To quote Francis Bacon........ Nam et ipsa scientia potestas est.
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Like Pee Wee Herman said to the French Girl, Simone? The one who had the huge boy friend, ANDY, when she thanked him for the french Fries He bought Her while they were watching the adventure about Pee Wee's life the film producer "Terry" made ournverditjdoe uthsbtehdganblhh blahhh de blahh blah!!LOL..
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Exactly Mike...... While our views on vamming may differ slightly, your version probably makes more sense, (I guess)..... What does it mean?
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Vamming is what you make of it. To me it is cutting edge numismatic forensics.
There are some complicated issues in the hobby only because there is a complication committee to assist with complicated issues. (tongue in cheek)
There are some complicated multifaceted issues in the hobby because in many respects it is an unfilled mosaic with an at times subjective template to guide one by. Think if you will of putting a one hundred thousand piece puzzle together with no picture on the box with which to guide you.
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Posted 02/20/2011 10:25 pm
