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How Can Aboncom Have So Many 1878-CC VAM11's

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I was tracking 3 that ended friday and now he has 3 more on there and they all look pretty good. This is a pretty hard VAM to find and all of a sudden he has 6 of them? The first ones he sold went for over 600 on the 1st one over 700 on the second and over 600 on the 3rd, you think maybe he's trying to make a killing and then run into hiding? or did he just find a stash somewhere? here is a link to the 3 he has on there as of now http://search.ebay.com/search/searc...search&fgtp=
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Well, the 3 running now all have the exact same closeup pics.

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 Posted 09/24/2006  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Shiny Di to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
well who the heck is SGS? could be his own grading co too
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yes SGS is his own grading company, if you do a search on SGS you will find numerous conversations about the shady practices of this ebay seller. And for the pictures, they are the same used in each of his listings that ended friday also. here is the links to two of them
http://cgi.ebay.com/1878-CC-SGS-GRA...AN_W0QQitemZ300027760719QQihZ020QQcategoryZ39465QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/1878-CC-SGS-GRA...AN_W0QQitemZ300027648788QQihZ020QQcategoryZ39465QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Have you seen the amount of negative/neutral feedback that this seller has?
Unbelievable. Over one thousand and two hundred negatives!!! Check it out.

http://www.toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/neg...d+by&Many=ON

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yeah they are the shadiest of the shady there is no doubt and allot of people has been looking at this seller and has complained to ebay about their tactics but nothing seems to do any good. If people would do a little investigative work before buying they would see exactly what we are seeing and not buy anything from them. I have even seen a specific 1878 VAM that I had never seen in any publication or any website so I believe it may have been a new discovery of a die pair so it could have been a nice find but I would not bid on the coin just because I will not be one of the people that encourages this seller to stay in business
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NGC alone has graded almost 80 VAM-11's in MS. Heritage has sold 8 in the last 2 months. I wouldn't call that particularly rare for a VAM.

I suspect he's starting to search his rolls for VAM's - I've seen an increasing number of attributed auctions from him in the last few months.
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Ok maybe I stretched it a little with the Rare description, it is one of the more pricey coins that I do not have in my collection yet and have looked for one to add to it. All that being said I still dont understand why he wouldn't take pictures of each coins attributes instead of just showinf the coin in the slab then closeups of a stock photo with the attributes
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Remember, he's not operating from the same viewpoint as you or I. It doesn't matter at all to him whether he shows the actual coin in his auctions or not - he considers his customer demographic (and he's right) to be people who couldn't tell the pics apart anyways.
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Theives and swindlers will always take the easiest path.
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