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New Member
United States
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Hi guys, this is my first post here so please forgive me if this is not in the right forum area. Over the last 3 years or so I have wound up with three Morgans. They are all received from ebay auctions. I got bored today and decided to try to learn how to verify a legit Morgan. I have weighed them with my Hornady reloading scale which is in grains. I know its not the new digital stuff but it works. the 1879 S came out to 413.2 grains or 26.77 grams (best cond. out of the three) the 1887 O came out to 405.8 grains or 26.29 grams the 1921 came out to 411.8 grains or 26.68 grams they are all circulated and the 1887 is the most worn with the relief like half worn off and a couple dings. How low should a worn Morgan weight? Is the counterfeit issue if its too heavy or too light? I read somewhere that the tolerance for BU morgans is 412.5 grains + or - 1.5. What do you guys think?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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First of all  to CCF! The best coin forum on the net! Your Morgans are all common dates and the weights you noted are well within tolerance for worn pieces. They should be worth around $25 each. Best of luck! P.S. Should note that $25 is only a baseline value. They could be worth quite a bit more based on condition.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I agree. Weight will vary depending on circulation wear.  to CCF
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Welcome also!
Edited by carmykle 02/26/2011 7:45 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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chris12018: I have started a new thread on this subject. I am an Aussie, so I don't have enough U.S. coins to provide condition vs. weight. Maybe someone else can provide more exact information.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I'd like to see pics, just to make sure.
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New Member
 United States
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Edited by chrisDX 02/27/2011 03:08 am
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Unlax. The likelihood that anyone would use good silver to make a fake common dollar is between slim and none.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: Unlax. The likelihood that anyone would use good silver to make a fake common dollar is between slim and none. That would be true today, but it wasn't true back in the 1890's to 1940's when the silver value in a silver dollar was much less than the face value. Good silver made it much less likely the fakes would be detected and the counterfeiters made their money on the difference between the metal value of the coin and the face value. In the 1930's the silver in a silver dollar was only worth about 20 cents so why not use it?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The chinese are making better and better fakes of our coins.........soon everyone of us will be weighing our coins just to make sure that none are fake! Remember if its too good to be true, it probably is, also don't buy anything on ebay from a person in China :D
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Oh by the way, I believe there is a little device made that you place a morgan and peace on and if it levels the device, its suppose to be real and if it doesn't level, its fake. Forgot the name.........but its fairly new and some dealers are using it on gold coins.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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does the device have a name? photo's?
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New Member
United States
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Have we figiured out the name of this device yet?! I really wanna know!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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main reason I won't even touch morgans or peace. Too many fakes being made by the chinese that weigh close to the real thing and look very close.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
737 Posts |
I think this is the device you guys are talking about. This one is for gold but they have one for silver dollars as well. The video shows how it works. http://www.fisch.co.za/home.htm
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Valued Member
United States
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It's getting so you can't even trust the slabs anymore. I predict this will be the downfall of our hobby. I know that sounds extreme but when the average collector is afraid to buy a Morgan-as stated above-it is the beginning of the end.
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