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I Found This Coin I Dont Know What It Is

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I found this coin in charleston sc I don't know anything like how to clean it,what it is made out of,what year,what country.exe eny help would be appreciated.

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 Posted 02/27/2011  03:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
what diameter; and what weight, please ?
I can't read anything on it, can you make out some letters in the top pic ?

the cross in the second pic reminds me of some Spanish or Portuguese coins that I dimly recall seeing ...

and, Welcome to CCF !

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it is .9 grams and the max of 24.72mm or 0.973in radius
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 Posted 02/27/2011  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john_mcgarvie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
more than 100 people looked at this and I got one bit of advice all you coin experts and you cant do better than that
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Quote: "more than 100 people looked at this and I got one bit of advice all you coin experts and you cant do better than that"

OK, its a hunk of copper, maybe a pre 1981 penny that someone hammered out! and then ran over it with a lawn mower!
If we had some better/close up pictures, and maybe .....just maybe some of the retails of the coin that you can see by a magni-glass, then someone could tell you something. It looks lik eit has been cleaned/scraped so whats under all that brown stuff?
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more than 100 people looked at this and I got one bit of advice all you coin experts and you cant do better than that

Now, there's no need to be rude. Have patience, grasshopper. We're all volunteers here. I didn't post an answer the first three times I clicked on this thread because I didn't have much else to add to what Peter said.

I can clearly see a crown in the top pic, but I can't make out what's beneath it. It could be a shield, such as is found on the coins of dozens of European nations, like Portugal, France, Spain and many others; It could even be a crudely rendered portrait such as can be found on mediaeval English hammered pennies.

The cross-shape on the bottom pic is also relatively common on many older European coins; the things placed in the quarters between the cross arms can often help narrow down the identity. Unfortunately, it's just not clean enough to make anything out there.

Inscriptions are also helpful in identifying coins; here again, I can see where text might be, but I can't actually read anything.

If you were posting that you'd found it in a field in rural England, my assumption would be that it's a hammered penny, similar to the ones posted in the last link above. Especially given that it appears to be rather thin and to have been bent in half and back again perhaps more than once, a fate common to mediaeval hammered. But those coins were well and truly out of fashion by the time the Carolinas were colonized. They're also smaller than 24mm across.

The metal appears to be brass, unless it appears to be more silvery in hand that it looks in the photos. Brass wasn't used in mediaeval times for coins, and when brass/bronze began to be used for coinage they were usually quite thick, like the Portuguese example above.

My best guess as to identity, given that it seems to be thin, brass and old, is that it's not a coin at all, but a jeton, like the ones discussed here.
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i didn't mean to seam rude I was just trying to raz you a little bit for some info and I really do appreciate the help
know a little more info on the jeton? it was found in a yard in charleston the house was built in 1776 or close to that time.it has a copper look in color but like a dull copper on the top pic I can see a crown some kind of beast looks like a lion that's about all I can see on that side and yes it was bent in half when I found but t I straightened it back out at first I was thinking slave tag but that's not it on the second pic I can see the cross but at each end of the cross has 2 leafs and in one of the spaces between the cross there is a set of 3 leafs
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Before you do accidental damage, let me mention DON'T CLEAN IT! As mentioned, many coins have a cross, usually with religious meaning (the ruler often considered blessed by god), and it also made it easy to divide into quarters.

Having mentioned cleaning, what you CAN do is let it soak, for weeks or even months, in olive oil to loosen up stuff sticking to it. You can first wash it in hot water with some dishwashing soap, but don't rub or scrub it with a toothbrush, eraser, or anything else that will polish or scratch it.
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Exactly, DO NOT clean. Soak in distilled water for a few months or so, that should remove any loose surface debris. Welcome to the CCF John.
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OK it is soaking I will re post in a month or so and I will find a better camera and do you think it has any value 25$-200?
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do you think it has any value


I'm going out on a limb and say,
unless it's gold, I doubt it.
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Looks like gold
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It most certainly is not gold
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Romanian ban, just a stab in the dark.
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Well from what I an make out it's got a crown with shield depicting something on one side and a thin long cross on the other side. So I'd say most definitely european maybe French or Spanish . Just an idea though.
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