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1936 Circulated Silver Dollar - Real Or Fake?

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 Posted 03/07/2011  12:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Claven2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I picked this one up on e-bay for $38.50, advertised by the seller as approx. AU. Maybe a bit high, but at quick glance I liked the coin. It's in shipment now.

It might just not be a very good scan, but after buying it, I noticed the obverse doesn't show clear denticles.

When I super-impose a transparent image of a PCGS 1936 dollar, it looks like there *could* be issues with the ear, nose and moustache - but it didn't seem definitively wrong to me? The legend, on the other hand, does line up.

The seller has 9100+ feedback, 100% positive and when I wrote with concerns, he offered a full refund if I don;t like it when it arrives in-hand.

What do you guys think? Real, or memorex?

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 Posted 03/07/2011  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed; looks a bit dodgy to me. OTOH it's not the greatest scan I've ever seen, either, so that's a problem too.
The front seems to have no denticles at all...
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 Posted 03/07/2011  1:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Claven2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well when it arrives, I'll weight it and post that here and take some higher quality digital stills. I know it should weigh 23.33g - as far as I know most dollar fakes are not of proper weight.

What seems odd is that the seller has impeccable feedback over thousands of transaction, many of which are Canadian coins (USA seller) and this coin itself is not a particularly rare or valuable variant. Definitely not a key date.
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 Posted 03/07/2011  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks identical to mine but with a bit more wear. Strange how this Canadian dollar has 54,000 less in mintage than the 1928 US Peace dollar but is concidered a common date.
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 Posted 03/07/2011  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice Coin... looks O.K. to me..
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 Posted 03/07/2011  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JMerrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, Muddler... There was, and is, a tiny difference the the populations of the two countries...
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> Strange how this Canadian dollar has 54,000 less in mintage than the 1928 US Peace dollar but is concidered a common date.

Remember there is always the DEMAND side to consider. There are 9x as many Americans as Canadians.
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Are these known varietal differences?:

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I don;t know about the cross on the crown - maybe an artefact of a distorted scan? As for the parallelism of the P and :, I think your line on the "P" isn't properly located. I don't see a difference, myself.
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 Posted 03/07/2011  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Yes, I did have it off a bit. I've corrected that. But it still looks different.
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 Posted 03/07/2011  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Claven2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, well, I'm not claiming it isn't a fake. I haven't had it in-hand yet so I can't really tell if it's a scan issue or a duff coin. I'm looking forward t oseeing it, photographing it, weighing it, and if it's a fake, I want to examine one in person anyhow before returning it.
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Looks authentic to me, stretched by scanning here and there. Scanner lenses are so small they distort everything. Especially coins with high rims that don't get close enough to the bed.
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Sorry, I'm not claiming or intending to imply it is fake. The reverse looks spot on. Which, makes me wonder about varieties in the obverse. It was the first (and as it turned out only) year for it on a dollar.

Maybe you've found an unusual/unknown variety?


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 Posted 03/08/2011  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doesn't look right to me, especially denticles and edge sharpness. I'm no expert on these.
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First question one must ask is : "Why would anyone wanna fake a coin that has virtually no value accept for bullion value.?" The 1936 silver dollar is a very common coin especially in circulated grades and has little value until it reaches MS-65/66 grades.
I think counterfeiters tend to create fakes in the key date issues and ultra rare low availability issues such as the 1921 series. So I would have no reason to believe this coin would be a fake, or some poor counterfeiter simply had too much time on their hands!

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 Posted 03/09/2011  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add guppie1160 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Nice Coin... looks O.K. to me..




still looking forward to hearing the weight...BTW without having it in hand I agree with you about the grade...it is a solid EF but AU not sure about that.
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