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Cant Part With Coins To Sell As Scrap

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i have many walking halfs franklins morgans and peace cant see parting with them
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 Posted 03/09/2011  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have no problem with that way of thinking...




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 Posted 03/09/2011  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Guitarmeanie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
seems to me like they are a part of history like I'm holding more than just money
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Personally, I've never had a problem parting with common silver coins and even the better dates. Consider the following ... 1941 quarter (Pearl Harbor year), 1917 half (WW I), 1964 dime (The Beatles land stateside), etc. One can attach history to the dates, portraits and other coin elements. I prefer to sell those coins to buy Civil War tokens, 19th century merchant tokens and scrip, colonial era coins and paper, counterstamped coins, early type coins, etc. From my perspective, such items convey far more history, both national and local, than do those common silver coins. (Check out the recent postings by CheetahCats ... super!)
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 Posted 03/09/2011  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I really see no problem here at all. I have been collecting coins for well over 60 years now and never sell anything. I have in the past given some coins to YN's to help them get started but regardless of how bad a coin is, just can't get rid of them. I've had some coins since 1943 when I started collecting.
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 Posted 03/09/2011  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IHPO8S to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have some favorites but ultimately they are all for sale for the right price. realisticly how many silver coins do you think are going to the smelters? How many active silver mines are there in the world at this time?
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 Posted 03/09/2011  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1893S to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's fun to sell, buy, and trade! Don't get to attached to anything. There is always something more interesting down the road!
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well there is alot of silver digging in Nevada
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 Posted 03/10/2011  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have no problem getting rid of problem coins or coins that are worn. I like to buy coins that are in better condition to replace any problem coins I have.
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My wife and I were discussing this last night. I bought a whole bunch of old silver Quarters for a really good price. Along with those were about one hundred other various coins, some silver, and about two hundred wheat's. My first thought was turning in the silver. I could get more just out of the silver quarters than I paid for all of them. When I mentioned it to my wife she suggested holding on to them.

We were wondering, if all these quarters are going to melt, what happens to the value of the survivors? Silver quarters are already scarce in circulation and roll hunting. The current trend will make them that much more scarce, wouldn't it? The quarters I bought are in VF-20 and EF-40 condition. Out of 15, only one is thoroughly worn. (G-4)

I would hate to send these to melt and regret it later. What do you think?
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These days do most coins sold at melt value actually get melted? Maybe I'm weird, but I would prefer to buy junk silver in the form of silver coins because they were government issued and contain a specifically known quantity / percentage of silver. Unlike random bars which likely are what they say, but how do you know for sure? Just seems weird to me to actually melt them down...
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I usually hesitate, thinking "what if silver hits $40.00 next month". Lost a bunch in the .com collapse too.....LOL Live and learn
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The coin dealer I deal with scraps hundreds of dollars ( face value) silver each week. If you don't get there at the right time just about every silver coin he gets in goes to the scrapper. I have seen him cut up late 50s to 70 proof sets for the silver coins and throw the nickels and dimes in the register. I have seen him send to the scraper almost a hundred sets of 50 state silver proof coins. Why? Because he gets about $5.50 apiece for them. I have seached bags of dimes, quarters, and halves that were on their way to the scrap bucket and pulled out lots of 1940s/50s bu Rosies, 49-63 Bu franklins, 40s and 50s bu Washington quarters, I pulled a 1913P Barber half from the scrap pile. He rarely searches anymore, his focus is on making a lot of money before it burst. ON the plus side he buys silver at 80 percent of melt and sells at melt. So I have gotten a lot of really nice MS and Proof Franklins for melt. He does not care about the dates anymore. So, yeah, LOTS of coins are going to the scrappers. Millions. He told me that the local refinery is backlogged right now. I have also filled a nice dansco full of Roosevelts at $2 to $2.50 apiece, regardless of date, mintmark or condition.
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 Posted 03/11/2011  04:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is how our collections will become valuable, when silver goes up stuff gets melted,
when silver goes down people buy and hold. Eventually common silver coin will be worth more than melt
and melting will end. Nobodies melting bust dimes.
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Perspective: We lived through this twice; the silver certificate redemption in 1968 and the silver boom in 1980. People saved SC back, figuring that since they were being redeemed, they'd have them for sale to future collectors. Guess what? The SC we would have paid $2.25 for in 1968 (and bought thousands of, if they had them) they can now get about $1.50 for from a collector, if they're lucky.

In 1980, people saved back silver coins, using many of the arguments above. When silver prices dropped (and they will drop--nothing goes up forever), they found they were holding coins that were worth less than when silver was the same price before rising.

Why? Take a collector putting together a set (or several sets) of Washington quarters. He needs the 32d+s, maybe the 37s and a couple others. Mid-79, his quarters were worth less than a buck each, early-80, these coins he paid a quarter for are now worth $5 a pop. He sells. But some refused.

Fast forward a few years, and silver prices fell. The savers want to sell, for whatever reason. The common dates are now worth a lot less than $5, because silver is down. Semi-keys like 40d, 55d, 37s, 36d, etc, are worth a premium, but it's less than they were worth before the run-up.

But how can this be? So many were melted. True, but many of the semi-keys were held back, both by collectors and dealers cherry-picking incoming sets before scrapping them. All those collectors who dumped their sets in 1980 no longer needed the semi-keys to complete them, and there were a bunch more of them in dealers' inventories.

The keys also decreased below pre-runup prices. If you dumped your collections in 1980, you don't need the 32d+s to complete them anymore. There are prolly the same amount available (doubtful anyone turned them in for $5), but there are far fewer collectors.

Finally, remember that the gubmint melted 350 million silver $ in the early 1900s (roughly three per American), yet you could still walk into any bank and order as many $1000 bags of BU dollars as you wanted for face, in the early 60s. Even today, assembling a bag of MS65 Morgans would be easy.
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 Posted 03/11/2011  04:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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. I have seen him cut up late 50s to 70 proof sets for the silver coins and throw the nickels and dimes in the register.


I doubt that he would turn down an offer of more than scrap value for the silver coins. At one point, I had a buyer for the cheapest, mangiest silver dollars (holes, etc) I could find. I even had refiners shipping them to me.

BTW, I'd shoot for those dimes from the register.

The problem with this "save the coins" attitude is that the ones who are telling the dealer to save them aren't willing to back their opinion with cash. It's like these hysterical commissions that tell people what they can do with their property, but aren't willing to BUY the property and fix it themselves.
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