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Pillar of the Community
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Found roll searching 1983P Jefferson nickel. Off Center and also Broadstrike with parts of Liberty & Date missing from the design.   |
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Pillar of the Community
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Definitely looks broadstruck, but I think Mis-Aligned Die is more accurate than off center, due to the fact that the reverse doesn't mirror the obverse in it's being off-center. Cool coin, I'd pluck it from circulation!
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks!
I'm never too sure about these as to MAD, Off Center, etc.
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Rest in Peace
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So if I understand you right, the diameter of this nickel is larger than a normal nickel. Is that correct?
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Pillar of the Community
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If one used a micrometer to measure the diameter in the direction affected, that's exactly what you'd find on a broadstruck coin. But sometimes a broadstrike can be so minor, it's tough to decipher from a normal coin, at that point, they don't command a premium.
It's an off center coin when both sides of the coin show the same degree of O/C in the same direction. When it's just one side of the coin (usually the obverse), it's easily attributed to a mis-aligned die.
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Pillar of the Community
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That's a nice find chuckster! On an '83 to boot!  |
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Liveandie, So you are saying not all broadstrikes are larger in diameter than a normal coin? Can you explain to me how that happens?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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What I'm saying PyrBob it this- a coin can be technically broadstruck, with the collar die slightly out of position, to a degree so minor that it's imperceptible to the naked eye. On more dramatic examples they're hard to miss. I never said that the diameter wasn't affected on a broadstrike. I said the degree to which a coin can be broadstruck can vary greatly.
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I don't agree with you. If the collar is slightly out of position then you have a partial collar strike and not a broadstrike. A broadstrike is an out of collar strike. I will admit, you did not say the diameter wasn't affected. I am still interested in hearing from Chuck what the diameter of this nickel is.
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Pillar of the Community
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Would you be interested in looking in a RedBook? The diameter of a nickel is 21.2 millimeters. |
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Pillar of the Community
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pyrbob;
The diameter is measuring the exact same size of a normal nickel.
This nickel is not larger.
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Pillar of the Community
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Partial collar strike would be a more accurate term for the type of coin you're talking about PryBob, you're accurate in saying that. But, that isn't what this coin is- this coin is simply a mis-aligned die. I say so to bring the original intent of the thread back to were it was intended. Nice example of a mis-aligned die.
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Pillar of the Community
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A MAD is always the normal diameter of the coin.
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I agree, this coin is a MAD and a nice one. Good find Chuck.
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Pillar of the Community
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Hi,
The description of this coin is that it is a misaligned die strike. The obverse is off center in appearance yet the reverse is centered.
The coin was struck within the collar so it is not broadstruck.
It also has some counting machine damage on the obverse visible as a scraped arc on Jefferson's shoulder.
Thanks,
Bill
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