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A Bloody Unknown Gold Piece

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 Posted 10/01/2006  01:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ucncllmeal to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ageka, ok, what you did there, that was nothing short of MAGIC, I've tried several times to try and research that coin and failed each time. I'm thrilled that something like this came into my posession and I'm also thrilled that I was able to indirectly share it. Thank you for your help.

Alex
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 Posted 10/01/2006  01:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thingee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WoW!!!! Now isn't this forum AWESOME!! Thanks for the thread ucncllmeal!
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 Posted 10/01/2006  06:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Snooba to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ageka, your knowledge is incredible! Well done!
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 Posted 10/01/2006  07:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by toast

I'm amazed at Ageka, how did you come across that site and find the image?



I understand 7 plus languages unfortunately latin is not one of them since I did modern languages and mathematics at high school

So first I found out by trial and error there are really four different text inscriptions independantly on the coin
( There is one on the banner which was not mentioned )

The key was CORONAM EN DECORAM SERVATOR CONFERT ET SHEVAT
but even that resulted in no hits
So I did what I always do researching obscure gold coins for sale on ebay I cut the thing in pieces

CORONAM EN DECORAM SERVATOR was the only input giving output on my webcrawler and the fourth hit was the coin and explanation in German

http://www.metacrawler.com/info.met.../top/-/-/1/1

Kingdom Sachsen-Coburg-Saalfeld

Als Christian Ernst 1745 starb und Franz Josias den Saalfelder Landesteil erbte, ließ dieser zum Gedenken an seinen Bruder einen prachtvollen Dukaten prägen.
Upon the death of Christian Ernst in 1745 his brother Franz Josias inherited the Saalfeld part and had the Ducat made as a memory to his brother

The coin is known as the religious Dukat
Backside is the eagle flying to the sun the eagle is crowned by a godly hand coming out of the sun
Text CORONAM EN DECORAM SERVATOR CONFERT ET SERVAT
At the bottom NON EST MORTALE QUOD OPTO
The obverse is (the dead) Christian Ernst kneeling in front of the Jesus Cross with in the background the picture of what the city of Saalfeld looked like at the time and a rebuilt castle can be seen
Text in a halfcircle LAS DIR AN MEINER GNADE GENUGEN
Text at the edge IESU DU SOHN DAVID ERBARME DICH MEIN


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 Posted 10/01/2006  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dewayne76 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good job Sap and Ageka!
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 Posted 10/01/2006  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TwoKopeiki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Way to go, Ageka! This is a beautiful piece, Ucncllmeal.
Rest in Peace
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 Posted 10/02/2006  02:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary Burke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are amazing Ageka!!
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 Posted 10/02/2006  07:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Gary Burke

You are amazing Ageka!!



I whish somebody would tell that to my wife
Only joking

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