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New Member
Canada
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I am not a coin collector and have recently discovered in a deceased relatives belongings what I believe to be is a George IIII 1823 Two Pound Coin mounted on a horseshoe designed watch fob chain. It does not have the engravers mark on it and I assume from what I've read on the net it could be a non circulating coin (FDC) Fleur du Coin Proof. The relative arrived in Canada around 1915 from Christchurch England.Other than that its a mystery. Is there anyone out there who might be able to assist me in confirming if this might be genuine and if so its approximate value. I've attached some photos of the coin. Thanks Thanks for your comments on the photos. Unfortunately they are the maximum resolution allowed on this site. You could be correct in your assumption. I guess I had better take it to an expert for physical inspection and evaluation to be 100% sure. Thanks again. John       Edited by guitarashton
03/12/2011 11:06 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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guitarashton: Welcome to the CCF!
Unfortunately, the pictures presented on the screen are not big enough of offer a reliable opinion. Could you present them to fill the whole screen?
Necessary, because there is always the temptation to make jeweler's copies of these coins.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Welcome guitarashton!
I believe this is precisely a "jeweler's copy". The thing is that sovereigns and their multiples were struck with a so-called coin alignment, so if a real coin was used on this fob chain one of the sides would be upside down.
What's on the edge? Looks like a groove. Or is it a mounting strap? On a coin there should be the reignal year in Roman numerals, IV (and no groove!).
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New Member
 Canada
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Hi: Thanks for your messages. They are greatly appreciated. I am now posting larger format photos of the coin. Hope this helps. The only Roman numerals on the figure head (Face side) of the coin are " GEORGIUS IIII" The numbers are still Roman numerals but not in the familiar format "IV". There are no roman numerals or any type of notation on the edge of the coin. It is difficult to tell if the edge has a mounting strap or has a groove.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Ashton, you should really stick to one thread and add pictures and messages to it.
The new pics are not much larger but I already see that the images on your "item" are much cruder than they should be. For this reason and the one I mentioned above I say your's is a replica. I'd say it's a jewelers copy, it wasn't designed to fool people for a real double sovereign.
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New Member
Canada
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Hi:
Thanks for your comments. As I said I am not in any way associated with coin collecting. It is quite possible you are correct. I will take it in to a local expert to get a physical evaluation .
Thanks for your help.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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G'day, I have a copy of an 1823 double-sov.
It has nowhere near the detail of the real thing;
the colour is more like brass than gold (maybe it is brass ?);
and it weighs significantly less than the 16 grams that a real one does;
although diameter is pretty close to the real thing - 28mm.
Peter
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New Member
Canada
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I find it very interesting that this horseshoe watch fob with the 1823 coin is the only one listed on the internet. As a horseshoe watch fob at least with this coin ? it must be rare. Any comments from you very intelligent subscibers ?
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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It's not rarity but supply and demand that makes something valuable. It's really just a curio that "watch fob collectors" might be interested in, but equally it's the sort of thing I see in the junk boxes at local auctions.
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New Member
United Kingdom
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 I have an 1823 coin but it only weighs 6 gram 28 mm?! Any help appreciated. Edited by Alun b
07/28/2017 06:15 am
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