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Little Tips And Tricks For Easier Working With Coins

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 Posted 03/15/2011  3:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Music! Or some background noise that doesn't irritate you. I can only sit there for so long in silence while staring at coins.
Listening to music is good.

Watching television is okay (it takes longer to look at the coins).

Watching or listening to a sporting event, especially if the team you like is losing, is not a good idea!
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I love quiet - but probably because I never get any. If I ever got a stretch of peace long enough to actually look at a coin at my leisure, I don't know what I'd do with myself!

Actually, maybe some of Dr. Just Carl's prescription might be just the ticket - I'll either scare everyone out of the room (including the dog), fall asleep, or won't care

As for tips... I keep a few of those teeny ziploc-top baggies in my glove box and/or whatever bag I'm currently traveling with, for any change I get that looks like it needs a second peek. Regular baggies are fine, too (unless you're going to leave it in your glove box and you live in Arizona) - it's just something to put it away in and separate it from other spendable coins rattling around.

I also keep a small magnifier with them. Nothing drives me crazier having to wait to get a close-up look. Nothing fancy - it's actually a small plastic thing that came with a child's toy kit. But it lets me zoom in a little closer and that's all I care about. The real close ups can wait until I get home.

Empty medicine bottles make great coin tubes. (wash first! )

The warehouse stores like Sams and Costco sell those big bunches of shop towels pretty cheap - a few are always around my desk to lay on top of whatever is already there (or the bare top) just in case something gets dropped.

The Max Flat Clinch stapler is the best stapler, hands down (no pun intended). Hands that hurt or just find it hard to put that pressure into stapling would greatly benefit from one of these.

Bibs are your friend. (for Scooby)

Office Max and Staples have sales on those DYNO label maker machines a lot. You have to buy the label rolls when you run out of the ones that come with it, but they're great for typing in a year/type information set once and printing many small labels. Saves writing

Boxes you get with everything you buy can be used to store 2x2's. Like tissue boxes are wide enough for 2 rows side by side - just cut the top half off. (the top-dispensing ones, rather than the top-and-side ones, would be sturdier)
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 Posted 03/16/2011  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I really liked that coins as tweezers trick

----> AND the music idea. Sometimes I have the TV on low volume to hear news or follow dialogue.

Xshift, LOTS of great ideas for us And I totally understand what you mean about finding quiet. Thats hard to come by when kids and animals around and always action going on, or bad real noisy neighbors!
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One tip I learned from an earlier thread is to take a coin tube (for example pennies) and fill it with 50 coins. Mark a line at the top of the tube where the coins stop. Now you can just fill the tube to the line for the proper amount of pennies to roll without having to count them out each time. Saves tons of time.

OR, fill it to the top until it is flush. Count how many coins the tube holds compared to what is required to make a roll. For example, my coin tubes hold 52 coins when flush to the top. So when I'm ready to roll them back up for the bank, I fill the tube to the top and take out 2. Ready to roll!
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 Posted 03/16/2011  10:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
EXCELLENT idea Scooby. Thanks! I've been using those little plastic foldover rollers from the dollar store but I like that hard plastic coin tube and drawing a line idea better for quicker counting and re-rolling. Sounds more "sure count" than the plastic fold overs that snap-lock closed!
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When searching rolls I typically first sort by decade, then I go through each decade pile and sort by year. Then I pick the keepers. I consider this the 'normal' way.

However I read a tip on one of the coin websites that suggest first sorting by the last digit in the year, then take a pile and sort it by the decade. According to the site this saves time. I just don't get where the time savings is support to come in and haven't seen it myself. If I go decade by decade with the normal sort method, once I'm through it I can put that decade away and free up my table space to continue onto the next one. With this alternate method, just to get through a decade it seems like you have to sort the whole thing into 100 piles instead of 10 just so you can find the coins for the decade you're working on.

For me this alternate method sucks because I'm working on sets and decade by decade is convenient. However, once my sets are complete and just looking at one year at a time with the alternate method may not be too bad.

Overall I see no time savings. With both methods you still need to do two sorts, one by year, one by decade, and I don't see how reversing the order simplifies anything.
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That's what I love about CCF, we can go from how to hold coins steady for viewing, to roll searching...
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That's what I love about CCF, we can go from how to hold coins steady for viewing, to roll searching.
I am just surprised that it had not happened sooner.
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...we can go from how to hold coins steady for viewing, to roll searching, to beating your cat, to how to sort, to back to how to hold coins!
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Overall I see no time saving


I believe that's explained here a couple of times by Coppercoins. The way he explains it, there is indeed a time savings - I will see if I can find one of his posts on it.
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^^ I'm sure you're right. In the smaller sizes I'm dealing with still I'm just not really seeing/feeling the difference even though mathematically there probably is one. It's probably more more apparent on bigger lots. To me at this stage with either method you still need to handle the coin twice for the decade and year sort regardless of what order they're done in and for me, about 2 box/wk currently, it's a total wash on the better method.
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I first go through ALL the coins and pull the older ones and US or foreign ones out right away. Then I sort into piles or rows of decade/year. My loupe and magnet handy, I check each one and toss the ones I don't want to keep or look closer at into a container.

Sometimes I'll check roll by roll, coin by coin as I empty the rolls, then get impatient. Depends on my mood how I go about it I guess
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Scooby, I'm rolling pennies today and using one of the tubes you sent me. I opted to count the fifty then fill to top, and yes, filling and removing the top 2 coins makes 50. Easy breezy. Thanks! It's easier on me than trying to fill the plasctic foldover locking ones then trying to pick them up to insert in the rolls. Tubes is great! easy to fill and easier to transfer to hand to tube voila
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For viewing coins I wonder if that computer type microscope thing would make that an easy task. The ones that you just pass a thing over an object and it appears on the screen. Not sure where they are being sold now but some time ago they had them in the toy department at Walmart. With one of those you could just lay out all the coins and pass that thing over them, view them on your monitor. Of course I think they were standard 300X or something like that. Still would like to get one someday and try that instead of holding the coins.
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 Posted 03/22/2011  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When determining if a 1982 US penny is copper or zinc, If you don't have a scale and don't trust the sound the coin makes when dropping as your determination you can always make your own penny scale to be sure. You can make one with a tongue depressor/opsicle stick and some wooden dowel. I instead used an AA battery and one of those covers for the expansion slots on the back of a computer.

Visualize a seesaw on a playground. When not in use one side of it is always down and one side is always up. The trick is to glue the pivot point (dowel) at the exact point on popsicle stick so if on the upper side if you place a coin a 3.1g copper coin it will cause it to fall while a 2.6g zincoln won't budge. I would tape it in place while working on calibrating it and once I found the spot I glued it in place.

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Many people mention dropping the coin on a surface to listening to the sound it makes. I don't know if it's just me, but I could never get accurate results with that. Instead I found that if you flip the coin with your thumb like for a game of heads or tails, the copper will produce a nice audible 'piiinnnggggg' sound where the zinc is much quieter. At first I thought experimenting with this idea would fail, but my digital scale keeps confirming that it works (for me at least). The only downfall is that my thumb gets sore after 1/2 a box using this method. Also, make sure when you flip the coin that you have a good amount of spin on it.
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