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 Posted 03/18/2011  01:32 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add brokencompass to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I see this ebay seller always selling toned coins. Has this seller figured out a way to tone graded coins? I seriously think so because it would be very difficult to obtain a stream of fantastically toned coins!

http://myworld.ebay.com/greattoning/

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The state of the coin now....
http://cgi.ebay.com/1936-China-NGC-...ts_W0QQitemZ370492531233QQihZ024QQcategoryZ4368QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ht_6234wt_1139

When the coin was with the TPG
http://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/C...=3153738-009
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 Posted 03/18/2011  02:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
he is a well known member over on the PCGS boards and I think he is a selling assistant and is very good at taking pictures of toned coins and getting a good price for them, so allot of people that has toned coins send them to him to photograph and sell for them. With all this known I don't think he is toning them himself, that is not saying someone isn't toning them and sending them to him but I have my doubts about that also
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Well the 2004 American Eagles don't tone that fast...
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Could a coin self-tone inside a sealed slab? In this example would the coin need to be first removed, then toned (either naturally or excellence somehow), and then sent back for grading again?
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03/18/2011 1:28 pm
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You always see that seller with toned coins because he is a toned coin specialist dealer! He is also an excellent photographer of toned coins and he can visualize colors that can normally be difficult to capture, it is all a matter of lighting and angles. It would also not surpise me that he uses editing software to "juice" the photos a bit, I have done the same thing when trying to make a photo replicate what a coin can look like in-hand under strong light. Toning is best seen with a coin in-hand because the colors can refract at numerous angles that you cannot possibly capture with a 2D photograph. The NGC photos are for detail, they did not set up to capture toning so that is why you cannot see it.


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Well the 2004 American Eagles don't tone that fast...

Sure they can, .999 silver can tone quite easily. If it was a clad coin looking like that, I would be very suspicious. I keep my SAEs in a Littleton album and it has toned a few of the mid-late 2000s. The toning is quite random though, one hole will tone a coin while the one next to it will have little to no toning.
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