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 Posted 03/22/2011  12:05 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add warsumm to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
sigh....again with the ebay. Just got a 1884 Morgan dollar in the mail this morning which was clearly fake. The coin was thinner, lighter and the numbers and letters were all fatter and at times completely different from the authentic. the funniest part was the very pointy chin on the fake, clearly a cast coin. Just writing this a reminder to especially new collectors to watch out. in my case, I will get a full refund but was lucky that I had other Morgans to compare this one to and that I was even concerned in the first place.
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 Posted 03/22/2011  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add warsumm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...t_500wt_1156


here is the link to the coin. I really need to do more homework in the future. Ah, live and learn. At least this one didn't cost me anything.
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 Posted 03/22/2011  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not quite sure if she's knowingly dumping fakes or not. The date on that one is a dead giveaway. At best, she's incompetent, check out this auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...330540448729

Pictured: 1889 Morgan
Title: Morgan silver dollar 1885 MS+ Nice! PL mirrored fields
Description: 1887 Morgan SUPER Silver dollar my grade is MS66+ ---see pix --- mirrored fields
FB: Nice folks, Good Stuff, GREAT PRICES!!

HUH?

My guess? Lots of stupid buyers on ebay, probably shipping nothing but fakes, because you sure can't depend on pix.
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 Posted 03/22/2011  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add warsumm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I looked over some of their completed listings and they are looked good, based on my limited knowledge that is as well as how I was able to tell mine was fake(it was telling even from the ebay photo of the obverse). I don't know if it is intentional. My initial email to the buyer explaining the situation was met with a very quick and curt "happy to accept a return, thanks". NO concern over the authenticity of their coins at all, which is a bit of a red flag. An yeah I love they made their OWN grade MS66+(?) My guess is most people are buying them for their alleged silver content. It seems to be aluminum to me given the lightness, but I could be dead worng. All I know is it is a Fakerino!
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 Posted 03/22/2011  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bud, I don't collect Morgan dollars - I don't even LOOK at Morgan dollars more than a couple of times a year...and I can easily tell that's a fake.

Word to the wise...don't buy online unless you really know what you're doing, and you can learn that through going to coin shops, coin shows, and buying books to read. That's where your $30 should be going.
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 Posted 03/22/2011  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add warsumm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the tips. I'm learning, albeit the hard way. I'll get there.


-Bud
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 Posted 03/22/2011  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have my doubts about a raw 1884 O that is listed by the same seller.

It doesn't look right where the designs meld in to the surface of the coin.

Anyway..

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 Posted 03/22/2011  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Billie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Scroll down to the very bottom of the ebay coin listings there is a link that will give you very good comparison pictures.

Click on see More Details about "1885 Morgan dollar"

http://catalog.ebay.com/1885-Morgan...l2570&_tab=1

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 Posted 03/24/2011  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thatcanuckyguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We'll I see there is No Returns Accepted. I would take this up with ebay's Buyer Protection Plan.
I'd love to find anything from the 1880's in MS-anything for 30 bucks lol. ebay is full of fakes though there are some good reputable folks on there as well.
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 Posted 03/25/2011  04:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nocomment to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I buy and sell on the bay consistently and I find that as long as you use common sense and do a little background on the seller..gauge the level of Professionalism and if its a coin you don't know much about then do your homework.. I had this happen to me when I bid quickly to win some gold max a million coins from a unknown seller in Mexico..yeah they showed up and were plated and you could bend then with your fingers and they were half the size of a US dime so shame on me for being a dope..lol.. out of my 8yrs this happened one time and I have yet to make another bad purchase and I also have been selling and by simply being honest, listing every little nick or scratch and having at least 1024px768p clear pictures (never buy or sell with stock pics always item as shown!) I have held my 100% 5* FB... I'm all for ebay coins just keep you mind about you.. Good luck on your next coin!
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