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This is a fun and desirable DDR that hasn't gotten much in the way of attention or publicity. I have heard that it will be shown in the April issue of DVN magazine. I'm in no means trying to steal anyone's thunder, but I'm fascinated by this coin. In fact I'm looking forward to seeing what public opinion is held of this coin. Will it be in great demand or continue to be overlooked? It blows me away that so many 1994 cents are searched while this may be entirely overlooked. I know I never looked in these areas while searching for the well known '94 Doubled Columns. I'd like to use this thread to get some opinions- I was lucky enough to find 2 different people who had this coin inside of a week, previous to that, I'd never even heard of it. I sold both examples on the same day I received them to two separate E/V enthusiasts. I'm curious as to what people's opinions are in regard to demand for this variety. Also, what do you think this should be valued at? I know there's a ton of variables in "value"- but what would YOU pay for it? (this is not a solicitation, I do not have any available) Thank you for your honest and forthright opinions- THERE'S NOTHING HERE TO DEBATE- there are no wrong answers! I'm just wondering about other's thoughts on this specific variety. Thank you, -Chris Welch.     As John Wexler states, this coin exhibits a "Class V CCW (counter-clockwise) spread from a pivot at about 10:00" Notice how remarkably similar it is to the well known 1968-D DDR Cent. |
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That's a very nice DDR. I only heard about this one for the first time last week. Although I'd like to think I check every single coin regardless, it makes me wonder if I may have tossed one of these while only looking for the columns. I wonder how many people see a '99 (or '98 or '00 for that matter), turn it over, see it's not a WAM and toss without even checking for anything else. I think sometimes we get on autopilot. |
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I run on autopilot....but you just gave me something to look for. I don't have the patience to check every coin for everything so I check for the ones I like. Sure, I miss some but the name of the game for me is fun. But back the the OP's question. I can't see a great popularity or value coming from something so miniscule, but I hope it does.And the best way to make it popular is in forums like this. I'm not going to place a value because I really don't buy many coins for my personal collection. Everything I buy is based on what I can sell it for and that's a different ball game entirely.
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I don't know if I would call it minuscule. It has really nice separation compared to what we've been looking for in recent years. Much better than an extra clump of concrete inside the memorial.  |
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liveanddie
what was the sales price ?
Def gonna take a closer look at my 94's
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Scooby..you do realize the photo is enlarged ?  |
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I don't feel comfortable disclosing exact cash prices, it would probably ignite a firestorm of criticism...but both examples were sold to sophisticated collectors with serious tastes and budgets to match. The MS63 RB example was traded for a Gem BU 2006 DDO #3 (Coneca 3-O-IV, CDDO-28, WDDO-32, Coppercoins 1DO-017). The 2006 sells in the $500 range when it is offered. The photos aren't perfect, but when you have this coin in hand, it hits you like a ton of bricks, it's my new favorite. |
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Wow! Chris that is awesome! So honored to have any chance to "talk" with you.
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Excellent post Chris ... and made in the spirit of sharing honest knowledge with the forum. Many Thanks for your sharing and the great photos ... soooo ... another one for me to lookout for. This is not PMD. David Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art |
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well I do agree with maineman , It's not a big one like the obvious 55 ,68-s, 69-s, 72 , 84 doubled ear, 95 liberty or something with huge spread. But That mint mark being doubled is very nice , but in reality the mint mark is very small for someone spot searching with out some magnification to just say looks like Machine Doubling and not give it a second look. BUT THAT MEANS IT COULD BE HARD TO SPOT AND FIND , hence a increased price to a collector. I think the way to establish a realistic value ? would be to find the die markers for that reverse learn how many coins might have been minted before that die was retired to get a good guess at how many might have minted. Thats something coppercoins would prob know or atleast know how to find out |
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liveanddie, I hope to have one in hand before the year is out.I only wish you would have posted before I found those two 94 DDR's this week.There were quite a few 94's in that bag. coppertop, F&G are the designers initials  Edited by Maineman750
03/24/2011 10:10 pm
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That's just it- I have no idea how findable it is. I wasn't familiar with it until recently. I'm really looking forward to hearing if other people come across this one and how frequently. Significant or not, I've got additional customers who want an example, the demand is exceeding my own supply.
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Chris, tell us about the die state.
Would that help in an a rough idea of its population?
I think if I'm checking all my '94's properly, that would have caught my eye.
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Cool question Scoob, I like this subject. In some cases die states can help ascertain approximate populations, but never in finite numbers, there's just no way to count or account for every example unless you can count them on your hands and feet. The coin looked like it came from a relatively fresh die, I have seen photos of the same variety where the crispness of separation isn't there and it's a bit less remarkable. I don't have the coins in hand anymore, so I can't give absolute assurance, but I'd be confident in suggesting it could have been EMDS (Early Middle Die State). IF we could locate an example that shows heavy die wear or anything else that would indicate a full life die run, then we could make assumptions about the population minted. But we can only assume there's as many as the latest die state confirmed would have produced. What I mean is this- if the DDR was recognized at any time during production, it would have been pulled. So there's your lack of answer, I think we need more examples to surface before much can be surmised. |
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i ment initial maineman .... my bad
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liveanddie,
If you know the die markers on the reverse, cant you look up how long it was used? Full die run ? or used and pulled for various reasons?
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