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 Posted 03/24/2011  11:42 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add sewelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all

I have just found this forum so welcome aboard me!

I have 2 x goose dollars that I bought years ago before online auctions etc. 1 x UNC, 1 x PROOF. I think that I paid around $40 each :) Lucky me!

I was wondering if anyone has ever seen these in a green case? I have only seen referencve to a red case. The cases I beleve are original cases inside cases is printed on the fabric "John Pinches of London" with diamond. Will take pics tonight and upload.

Any thoughts on the green cases would be appreciated.

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Mark
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 Posted 03/25/2011  03:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blinky Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
...can't help ypu re: the cases Mark,,,but welcome to the boards.Hope yours are not the German issue,,,,fakes aplenty.
cheers to you.
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 Posted 03/25/2011  03:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Maccas catalogue only mentions maroon cases. Your green one might be a re-case, it might have been some surplus cases which Pinches used to fill out the order. Not sure.
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 Posted 03/25/2011  06:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sewelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 05/13/2011  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add williamc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Mark,
You do not have an original box but you do have one of our rarest coins. It has doubled in value in the last year and is now worth around $2,000 AUD. Look after it as I suspect it will be worth a lot more over the next few years.
Happy collecting
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 Posted 05/13/2011  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
all of which raises an interesting question:
who minted the goose "dollars" ?
Was it John Pinces of London ? I've not heard of him/them/it before ...
I normally have no interest in NCLT, but I agree that the "goose" is a very special item, even to a cynic like me.
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 Posted 05/13/2011  10:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Peter, You can read about it here:
http://www.australian-threepence.co...-dollar.html
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 Posted 05/14/2011  12:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Australian coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day great to see a fellow Aussie

Welcome to the CCF!
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 Posted 05/14/2011  12:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Australian coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The I967 Unofficial Pattern Crown nicknamed the "Goose dollar" by collectors. It was engraved and struck by John Pinches medalists of London. Design by Andor Meszaros.
There were 1500 specimen Uncirculated silver coins issued that featured a milled edge, 750 proof pieces with a plain edge and 10 gold with the plain edge. It is believed 2 of the gold coins were lost in the Ash Wednesday fires in 1983 (John Gartner collection) so it could be said that there are only 8 in existence. All coins were originally issued in a maroon colored case inscribed with "Australian Pattern Crown" inside the lid and in the case for the proofs, the word "proof" was added.
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 Posted 05/14/2011  06:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add the-purple-penny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Nancy for linking to my blog article. Thank you Australian coin for appreciating it's content seen here:
http://www.australian-threepence.co...-dollar.html

I wouldn't discount that the boxes shown here are not original as they are certainly by the medallist who struck this issue.

The geese haven't faired well over time living in their boxes without protection with the potential for fingerprints, soiling and toning. PCGS are yet to recognise these and grade them but some have been graded and are now protected in NGC slabs.
MS63 x 1, MS64 x 1, MS65 x 1, MS66 x 3, MS67 x 2 for the unc pattern crowns and
MS63 x 3, MS64 x 1, MS66 x 1 in proof

The one in the blog article was purchased (no box) on ebay for $457 in 2007 and now lives in an airtite capsule, the prices have sure screamed ahead since them.
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 Posted 05/17/2011  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sewelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all the info guys & gals. Can someone let me klnow where in victoria I can get these 2 coins slabbed to protect them for my retirement?
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 Posted 05/17/2011  11:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Australian coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmmm I don't think that you can get them slabbed anywhere in Australia. Most people send them to the US to get them done. But if you looking to get them protected, you could get them put into some sort of coin capsule? Well it's up to you and what you would like. Anyway it might be best to take them to Downies, they would know what to do with it.
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 Posted 05/17/2011  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Australian coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Downies Head Office

PO Box 888
Abbotsford, VIC, 3067
Australia
Email:info@downies.com
Tollfree: 1300 788 358
Melbourne callers Ph: (03) 8456 8456
Fax: (03) 8456 8401

Block Arcade Coins Melbourne

Shops 11 & 12
98-100 Elizabeth Street
Melbourne, VIC, 3000
Email:block@downies.com
Ph: (03) 8677 8888
Fax: (03) 8677 8890
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 Posted 05/18/2011  12:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Australian coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can get it PCGS
The main company in slabbed coins in the US, they have a cute hologram sticker on one side and grade it on the other, and they number it and code it in a database for you.
http://www.pcgs.com/

The best way to get this done is with a dealer:
There site named these people in Australia
Cool!! Downies Coins Pty Ltd is on it and Universal Coin Company

Downies Coins Pty Ltd - +61 3 8456 8456 - Abbotsford, Vic
Drake Sterling Numismatics Pty Ltd - Drake Sterling - +61-421-229-821 -- Sydney
KJC Coins Australia Pty, LTD. - Kurt Jaggard - +61 2 9290 1244 -- Sydney
Monetarium Adelaide PTY. LTD. - Steven Nugent - 618-8232-6555 - Adelaide
Pacific Rim Coins, Pty Ltd. - Christopher Buesnell -- 47825994 - Wentworth Falls, NSW
Sterling & Currency - Andrew Crellin - +61 8 6468 2467 - Western Australia
The Rare Coin Company - Robert Jackman - +61 8 98 92 8000 - Albany, 6331
Universal Coin Company - Peter August - 03 9654 2997 - Flinders Lane, Melbourne, VIC
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 Posted 05/18/2011  12:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Australian coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Slabbing prices start at $30 just with postage and go as high as $150. but a dealer might get a better price when doing them in bulk.

Let us know how much Downies will charge to slab you coins.
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 Posted 05/18/2011  03:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add the-purple-penny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PCGS don't slab these geese dollars.

Your options are finding someone who submits coins to NGC and get it slabbed that way, this is the most expensive option but best in the long term. Don't get caught with any other slabbing service, these 2 are the mainstream.

Another would be getting a coin capsule that is the correct size for each coin. Too big and the coin moves which can cause damage. My goose is in an airtite with foam ring:
http://www.australian-threepence.co...holders.html but I think you'd have to get a couple of these sent from the US.

Short short term I'd get it out of the box with gloves so it's not exposed to the environment and potential fingerprints. My preference would be a Saflip as opposed to a cardboard 2x2.

My opinions here.
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