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Please help, I'm having trouble determining if this SBA is a Wide Rim... I just don't know, and I rolled the dice...   |
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I don't think that it is. The date is much closer to the rim (or the rim is closer to the date - depending on how you look at it). If you have any other years to compare it to, it will be obvious. Check out these pics: http://reviews.ebay.com/1979-Wide-R...000001668829 |
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It looks like the "Narrow Border" variety to me...... The "narrow rim" variety is found on all 1979 dollars from all of the mints. The 1979 "wide rim" variety can only be found on the "P" mint issues. Narrow Rim Wide Rim Edited by eaglefoot
03/31/2011 3:16 pm
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Thanks guys, only $2 out of my pocket anyway, so no loss... Looks like it was just a MAD, just a lil' bit...
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I've gone through about 4 rolls of mine own (all spent now) and I'd say that this is a Narrow date. If I remember right, the 9s are the give away. I think some of the reverses on mine did look to have a fatter rim than the obverse, but from what I remember that's just optical illusions.
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^unfortunatally have to agree. Compared it to my wide.
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Not a wide rim. I had trouble in the begining so I got another year that has the wide rim and just looked at them side by side. Once you see that you will get it right away. I was at my buddy's house drinking beer and he pulled out a few coins he had, one was an SBA. I said that is a wide rim. I knew it in a second. Easy once you figure it out. |
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It is better to think of them as "Near Date" and "Far Date" because looking at the date will always be consistent, whereas looking at the (inconsistent) rim will often mislead you.  If I may borrow eaglefoot's images... Narrow Rim -> FAR DateWide Rim -> NEAR Date |
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I use the I in Liberty and the 1 in the 1979- the rim should nearly be touching both for it to be wide rim. In the narrow rim variety the I and the 1 have some distance or "daylight". I also look at the "T" in Liberty- very nearly touching the rim in wide rim, but not so in narrow rim.
I'm not in favor of the near vs far designation because the variety has to do with the rim, not the date.
The above coin at the beginning of the thread is the Narrow rim, common.
Edited by mycrob
03/31/2011 5:15 pm
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Oh I should also point out that there is a minor variation in thickness of the rims in narrow dates, which is why it's hard to pick out the wide rim. If you use the pick-up points I described above, it should work for you.
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I too am just getting into some of these dollars... and boy it can be confusing.
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I'm not in favor of the near vs far designation because the variety has to do with the rim, not the date. True, because it is true that the rim (actually, the border) was widened and the date was not moved. For the record, the Red Book uses both terms in the illustration.  Also, keep in mind that I said "It is better to think of them as "Near Date" and "Far Date"..." I did not mean we needed to change the terminology.  One will find that the border width is inconsistent on business strike coins (because of slightly off-center strikes). Given a large enough sample, one would be able to find a "wide rim" (near date) coin with an (apparently) narrower rim than a "narrow rim" (far date) coin (at least when looking at the border width near the date). The truth is that the proximity of the date to the border is much easier to determine, regardless of which terminology is used. |
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Newbie question... so what's the difference? I assume the "wide rim" versions are much more scarce? Is it only 1979 SBAs that have this variant?
~ Kyle
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I'm not in favor of the near vs far designation because the variety has to do with the rim, not the date. I prefer the near vs far because variations in centering make the widths of the rims inconclusive, but the distance FROM the rim is diagnostic. |
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