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Coins As Investment? - Which Are The Safest Coins?

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 Posted 04/01/2011  12:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Secret Argent Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So, I just read the link about midas coins...

and here's the thing on coin dealers (as opposed to coin shops)-- coin dealers are the ones hyping about inflation and how the world is going to collapse and so you better buy their stuff. I liken them to used car dealers. A car is on the lot, it's pristine, it was only driven to church by the little old lady, etc etc etc. You buy it, a month later go to sell them that same car, and suddenly yours is a piece of junk that they'll "take off your hands" for $100 trade in toward that next wonderful car they have.

Coin shops on the other hand are different. Both will buy low and sell high, because they both have to keep their lights on and employees paid, but one is for the unwary who listen to their late night infomercials on talk radio, and one is for the hobbyist who knows a little something about what he's purchasing. You can still lose money at a coin shop, don't get me wrong, but you won't generally see the 50% markup issues, because customers going into a coin shop are generally more well-informed and they know they can't get away with it.

But never, ever go purchase from somewhere that has doom-and-gloom ads on talk radio or late night infomercials. That's a sure sign you're going to lose your shirt. Never buy from somewhere that is hawking one specific coin over all others, as this is usualy going to be the one with the highest markup. Never purchase from somewhere with high-pressure sales tactics.

SO.. if you're going to go to a retail establishment always go to a coin shop not a coin dealer... look for BBB ratings, ANA memberships, etc. Do your research ahead of time, maybe do some comparison shopping and AVOID the type of place mentioned in that post.

A few other items of note:

-Any US coinage that is colorized or otherwise "decorated" is going to lose value. US mint does not do colorized (yet?) and 99% of US collectors view after-market colorizing as damage, not as something good.
-As a general rule, any coins not minted by the US mint or other recognized governmental entities are going to lose value (This includes Franklin mint, national collectors mint, et al). Certain other mints you might do OK, like Canada for instance, but positively do not buy a set of coins from some other countries like Liberia. (Don't ask me how I know about that, my Liberian $5 coins that I paid $5 each for are worth about 8 cents)
-Any "flavor of the month" coin-- ie Obama coin, or Tea Party coin, or Elvis coin, etc is almost assuredly a loser.
-Never buy something brand new which is marketed as a "collectible" or "commemorative" coin from the getgo (the sole possible exception would be direct from the mint, but even then is iffy). Commemoratives, even those purchased direct from the Mint, often trade at or near bullion value. Proof sets tend to drop or minimally appreciate. SOME proofs from the US mint are good, but as a whole I'd stay away.
-personally I would never by an ETF, because there is some speculation that the companies putting them out do not have the physical metals to back them up.
-If you're looking at this from an investment perspective, remember too that you have to add in other fees such as storage fees (or safe deposit box fees), and then taxes if you sell them...
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 Posted 04/01/2011  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with key dates being the best bet, within coins. Best overall investment, however would be stock market. I do not think precious metals are a good buy with them being at or near historic highs. Once the economy turns around, you will see precious metals decline.

As for the weakness in key dates last few years, this is due to the economy and folks having to sell their collections to make ends meet. I think this is very temporary and it will turn around.

Key dates generally have a decent long-term return because there is demand and low supply. But is the return as good as stocks or mutual funds? I don't think so, but depends on which stocks, MFs and which key dates you go after.
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 Posted 04/01/2011  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OneBowl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Note: He's asking about investing in precious metals by way of coins and is located in New Zealand.
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 Posted 04/04/2011  02:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fredward to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thankyou all for your advice, I wasn't expecting such a good response!
So a lot of you recommend 'key dates' - again being new to this I don't want to take my lucj with a google search, which are the best places that list (value) / sell key dates coins?

By the way the best reason NOT to invest in precious metals appears to be an economic recovery, which while we all hope for this, I believe its more likely to go the other way, with America not having much of a manufacturing base, expensive wars that only escalate (Libya!? you gotta be kidding me!) and ultimately a national debt that is technically impossible to pay off.
That last point is key - the total wealth produced by the US each year is not enough to pay off the INTEREST on the national debt. This is the sun-sized elephant in the living room.

So I think its a very good bet to invest, especially as precious metals will always be worth something, in any economy. One of the few guaranteed holders of (at least some) wealth.
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