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Trade Dollar Weights

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I walked away from a deal on two Trade dollars following weighing and coming up with +/- 25.55 grams per coin. Coins were probably in XF-AU condition. What is the typical loss in weight on a circulated coin like a Trade dollar?
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That is too low. They weigh 27.22g. I've read you can figure a couple of percent off for normal wear, so anywhere in the 27g even range is probably reasonable. I have an 1878-S in XF that weighs (if I recall correctly) 27.06g. It came from an ANACS slab.

I think you were wise to walk away - those are almost certainly fakes.


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Here's me with mine. You did say Trade dollar weights right?



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 Posted 04/01/2011  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add willy13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know nothing about Trade dollars. But I do know that lincoln cents will vary from 2.94g to 3.19g for the coppers and 2.36g to 2.61g for the zincs. I dont know if that applies to other coins...
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Thanks KenKat,

I wasn't exactly sure what amount of weight was reasonable for circulation wear, but felt like +/- 10% seemed a little excessive. I've since read a few articles and now realize that many of the Trade dollars are counterfeit.

Got lucky this time!
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Very nice BlueZone,

Those must be the counterfeits which weigh in excess of the real stuff. Maybe those are the silver plated lead dollars.
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When I was buying mine I was reading as much as I could on fake Trade dollars.
If I remember right,one book said 2 grams light is a good indication that it is fake.
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On one of the forums I frequent there has been someone doing some research on weight loss from wear using Baber coinage. It seems that coins worn down to Good lose somewhere around 7 to 10% in weight with smaller coins losing a higher percentage than larger ones. If that holds true a Trade dollar in Good should weigh around 25.3 grams. In XF that is way too low for a genuine coin.
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The weight is a definite factor as most have stated herein. Also, virtually all of the hundred-plus fakes I've seen tend to grade in the XF-AU range and have a more grayish tone than the real coins.
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