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Any Sleepers (Canadian) In Your Coin Collection?

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 Posted 04/02/2011  12:13 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add glenzy1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just wondering if anyone feels they have sleepers in their collection? If so what are they? P.S. sleepers are coins that are underrated and undervalued and their Numismatic value/potential have not "yet" been noticed or appreciated by the Coin World. ie:1947, pointed 7, silver dollar in Mintstate could possibly be one.
What do you have in your collection that you feel deserves greater Trend$ value?

Glenn
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 Posted 04/02/2011  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure,

* The 2005 Liberation silver 25 cent piece. It was released in a Netherlands Euro uncirculated set. Mintage: 3500
* The 1912-2002 $5/$10 gold commemorative set. Mintage of 2002, and basically it is only considered for bullion value.
* 1947 ML $1. 2500 more made than the 1948, but 1/4 - 1/3 the trends. How many of each survive? I'll bet the 1947 ML is actually scarcer.

Much of the Newfoundland set is undervalued for the mintages. Perhaps the boost in Newfoundland's GDP will lead to some demand increase in coming years. This may represent the best sleeper opportunity out there.






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 Posted 04/02/2011  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add soccerdad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The last time I looked all my coins were sleeping. Although last night when I was trying to sleep I could have sworn there was a big party going on in my coin room.
I have a nice grade 1864 20 cent piece from New Brunswick. Does that meet your criteria as a nice sleeper. How about an XF-40 1948 50 cent piece.
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 Posted 04/02/2011  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imohtep to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
perhaps my 1927 commemorative token for the confederation of canada :D...I know it's not a coin but I found it in a random bin at a coin store lol

http://www.coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq...ain_ct_id=23

scroll down on the above page for a pic if anyone doesn't know what I'm talking about.
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 Posted 04/02/2011  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nybird to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think all of the nice 1902-1920 large cents are undervalued overall. Once someone really studies them there are likely some sleepers in that group.
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 Posted 04/02/2011  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add david mackenzie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I find that newfoundland silver .05,.10,.20and .50 are way under valued but maybe trends would wake-up and smell the coffee.
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A lot of people think newfs are undervalued. And have thought that way for awhile. I'm still waiting for the price to shoot up ... but I'm not holding my breath.
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I don't think provincial coins will hold value long term. Most extinct society coins don't really do all that well in the market considering their age because the draw for them is too narrow. US colonial currency is a good example of this in general.. you'd think it would be worth more considering the sheer number of collectors down south, but it gets pushed aside in favour of post revolution dates bearing the USA as country of origin.

I think provincial coins here suffer the same fate. I don't collect provincial (except province of Canada) because I have no ties there and just consider them another British coin from yet another foreign colony that wasn't (yet) Canada. They are interesting, don't mistake my words, they just aren't in high demand compared to many other relatively common coins bearing the word Canada. I don't see that changing based on examples from other parts of the globe.

I made a deal with a good friend for a 2006 P non magnetic in 65 two days ago after reviewing the information we discussed here on this forum and what I found elsewhere. I think it's the sleeper and I think it might outshine the 55 NSF one day. I traded a pretty darn nice 31 fifty center for it, so I believe it. My buddy does too, he has two of them and didn't want to part with the third but he owed me for filling in his fishscales.
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well Glenzy, I would have to say My Newfoundland $ 2.00 gold collection.. These coins are so undervalued its ridiculous.. Take the 1880 , only 2500 minted over 131 years ago and how many might still be in the market place..maybe 100 or so These coins are so rare that value should be 10 times what they are now....

So any new aquisitions of late ?lol
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 Posted 04/04/2011  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add glenzy1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a Killer for ya! An 1892, Canada, dime, Large "9" any grade , any Obverse! Try finding one anywhere? then check trends, they are listed for peanuts. An AU-50 is listed for less than 10K.

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 Posted 04/04/2011  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joe12990 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I second the nomination of the Netherlands-Canada 25 cent. Also the 1994 gold 1/15 ounce maple leaf is an extremely low mintage and underrated (if you can find one!).
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 Posted 04/04/2011  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Glenzy,do you own a 2/1?
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I think some of the 5 cent Newfie coins are also very underrated and will see significant increases over the next few years.
I am speaking specifically about the 1873 5 cent coin with the first obverse, and the 1888 5 cent coin with the 2nd obverse. Both of these varities are much more difficult to find than the infamous 1873H 5 cent coin. When the 2 aformentioned coins are available, they usually have some sort of problems (eg. holes, bends, cleaning, etc...), so finding a higher grade problem-free example can be super difficult.
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 Posted 04/05/2011  06:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add glenzy1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello DBM, About three years ago a seller on E-bay from California who knew nothing about coins had an 1892 dime listed. The coin was raw appeared problem free with a nice typical untouched medium grey tone.
The bidding started slow and only a few bidders engaged. I was scheduled to work night shift the night the auction ended, so I booked off sick without hesitation. (I was suffering from Numismatic hives)
One minute before the auction ended I slammed a $500.00 U.S. bid on the coin basically ensuring my win since the highest bid second's prior to the end of auction was around $150.00. I won the coin at appr. $180-190.00 U.S.
Coin arrived 2 weeks later and my heart was pounding as I opened the registered mail envelope. When I gazed down at the plastic holder that contained the coin, I almost fainted. The coin was a gorgeous 1892, Large "9" (a.k.a.>2/1) dime with a nice soft medium grey toning. Problem free and in my opinion an EF-40.
The next day, off to I.C.C.S the coin went, and one week later this was the result: I.C.C.S., 1892, Large 9; Obverse 6, VF-30.
Needless to say I was mildly disappointed in the grade I received, however, I was thrilled to have one of the RAREST Canadian Numismatic Icons of the 19th Century in my hand!



Glenn
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 Posted 04/05/2011  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add david mackenzie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow I just received my 1876 NFL silver 5 cent piece now to get it graded, maybe vg-8.
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Glenn, great story! Felt like I was standing next to you.
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