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Anyone Willing To Do A Dip Experiment For Us?

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Pillar of the Community

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 Posted 04/07/2011  1:20 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add OneBowl to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Basically a request for educational purposes, most definitely myself, but I bet others as well.

I was wondering if anybody would be willing to dip a couple of junk coins then post before and after pics? If you could list the variables, such as solution used, amount of time dipped, concentrations, rinse routine, etc., that would be nice. For this context, I'm not referring to acetone treatment, but I'd love to see the results of that too.

Any takers? Real life experience from Forum members beats textbook pics for me. Thanks.
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 Posted 04/07/2011  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What is your end goal?

Are you looking to do this with any non-valuable coin, or ones which are completely corroded to hell?

Are you looking for methods or solutions which can potentially improve a coin (if it's truly improved is a side-discussion) or is this more for general curiosity e.g. what happens if I dip a coin in honey for 2 weeks?

Besides dipping coins, I'm wondering what some of the where/what/why is.
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 Posted 04/07/2011  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
BEFORE (coin #3):

https://goccf.com/t/84442

AFTER:

https://goccf.com/t/85235

EZ-Est dip for 1-2 seconds rinse immediately with running water pat dry with mark free cloth
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 Posted 04/07/2011  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Anarchus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I bet this thread will drive many collectors crazy()... I don't want to be rude, as this is your thread. I think one thing should be mentioned first for inexperienced collectors that see this thread. Coins can easily be ruined and devalued by cleaning. There is a difference between cleaning and conservation.
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 Posted 04/07/2011  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weavus135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would love to see the before pictures - they seemed to have been removed from photo-bucket
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 Posted 04/07/2011  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Anarchus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So here is a 1969-D LMC that is a trial piece... It is the same substance that Fenton used...

Top right quarter is untouched...
Top Left was dipped 5 seconds then rinsed...
Bottom Half dipped 20 seconds...


Anyone-Willing-To-Do-A-Dip-Experiment-For-Us?

In my opinion, the only beautiful part of this coin is the untouched quarter of the coin. I think this "test subject" proves that it doesn't always make it better by cleaning...The pics were taken 24 hours after...

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 Posted 04/07/2011  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good thing the best part of the Lincoln Cent above is that it's the same part that has his face :)
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 Posted 04/07/2011  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll have to agree that the copper cents should be left alone unless they are really bad...however, I would like to see some experiments on some of the ugly zincolns that are so common...not sure you can mess those up
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 Posted 04/07/2011  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OneBowl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, I just read a great post from liveanddievarieties, then come over here to all this cynicism.

trent, relax. My end goal was already stated. Exclusively educational. I'd like to see the difference to understand why it's done and to help me identify such coins. I haven't cleaned a coin since I was 8 and have no plans of ever doing so. I WILL place one on the railroad tracks every single chance I get the rest of my life though, sorry.

darth, if the wording of that post drives anyone crazy, tough crowd. Thanks for the exhibits and really appreciate the explanation. Interesting that I bet the majority (people, not necessarily collectors) would prefer the dipped example. On the Morgan, it seemed to facilitate grading by members.

Anyway, gotta run. No ulterior motives here. I'm not that deep.
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 Posted 04/07/2011  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've done some really extensive testing on some already messed up coins for what your asking. However, I always forget to photo the before since I never think the end results could be substantially different. Then when it is, to late. There were some coins that I used so many different things on them I am amazed they still exist.
If you did a search on the search tab for coin cleaning, cleaning coins, Acetone, Tamato juice, etc. you may well find a real lot of interesting stories.
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 Posted 04/07/2011  10:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, I think my post might be getting misinterpreted. I am actually interested in this project, but as I was mentioning I'm a little confused on the specifics. I could honestly care less about what people do to this coins and none of my post was related to any of the altering of coins debates. But I am still confused on what the goal is and what the specifics are when you say dipping coins, but not in acetone. Is the goal stopping corrosion? Removing corrosion? Toning? ? I dunno, I'm just new and confused.
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04/07/2011 10:10 pm
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 Posted 04/08/2011  12:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add w1a9c8k5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The penny is a great example. I agree with the no dip policy on some coins, but others need it!
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 Posted 04/08/2011  12:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vinnycoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I sort of like the dirty look :P
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 Posted 04/08/2011  02:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Anarchus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
well I didn't want to de-face Mr. Lincoln... I actually saved a many coins by taking this "cleaner" from a family member before she used it on an assortment of Seated Liberty halves, and I felt froggy on trying it out for the first time. Just to be clear, no valuable coins were hurt in the production of that photograph
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 Posted 04/08/2011  09:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OneBowl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My goal was nothing more than second hand observation of the results with the before pictures as a baseline. I've seen thousands of dipped coins, only a handful accompanied by before pictures. I have no interest in "dipping" a coin myself, but I thought this thread may help me understand better why it's done and assist in identifying them for use in buying due diligence.

As for the acetone comment, I think the definition of "dipped" comes into play. According to the definition here and comments by members, an acetone wash does not seem to be "dipping." That's why I mentioned it separately.
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 Posted 04/08/2011  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There's probably already a 1000 posts here and on the internet covering this. Google is your friend. :)
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