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1945 2010 Poppy Quarters Deteriorating Dies?

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 Posted 04/08/2011  7:26 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi.

I picked up $5 worth of those "two poppy" quarters from the post office to search through and I noticed a lot wrong with every one of them I think. Accumulations on the lettering on obverse and clumps of metal inside and plugging the grooves of the C and D of CANADA on the reverse, and odds and ends of things, that all look like the dies were really deteriorated. Must have been a bad batch.

The quarters are put in the til to give out as change at the post office but they do have rolls for sale. I just wanted a few to check from the til, so they have dings and such anyways, but I've seen coins listed in a site with accumulations, listed under errors.

Are these considered errors though?

If you want I can scan a couple just so you can see what I'm talking about.
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 Posted 04/08/2011  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ugly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yes please post a few scans..

And it's not uncommon for the last run of the coins to look like they been through a war.
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 Posted 04/08/2011  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, these look like the dies probably left some more dramatic cool ones soon after these happened

I'll scan some and be back to post them soon ;)
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 Posted 04/08/2011  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikandiggit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first roll I opened had one with a damaged planchet. The others in the roll were okay but this one was a keeper:

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 Posted 04/08/2011  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cool one!!

I wish I could get an image like yours. I'm about to blow a gasket in frustration trying to get a scan. All the images come out really REALLY dark for these high shiny silver colored ones. I tried various settings. Even inverting colors to see "lighter" images and that does help but ... May have to use some of those because you can't see anything with the normal scans :(

I can see I have to plan to budget for a cheap scope or camera for the silver coins especially.

I'm going to google to see if I can find images online, just to show you what I mean.

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 Posted 04/08/2011  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Couldn't find any samples online, so here are some bad scans. Sorry about the images :)

I hope you can see a bit of it between the scan and the inverted colour versions of them. Look inside the C and D of CANADA on the reverse, and at the last letters of REGINA, especially the "IN". There were other spots where die problems showed, like a small squiggly mark on the Queen's cheek area, but can't see it here.

These images are all the same coin. I won't bother scanning any others but they're basically the same, same spots, to varying degrees.

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 Posted 04/08/2011  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikandiggit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I wish I could get an image like yours.


This might help:

https://goccf.com/t/85596
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 Posted 04/09/2011  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add castor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Dottir

If you want some and some pic for defect on this piece look here.

http://www.numicanada.com/forum/vie...9784&start=0
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 Posted 04/09/2011  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Perfect!! Thanks loads Castor

That link shows exactly a lot of the images of what I'm seeing on this whole batch of these coins from the post offices cash til, so from same roll they cracked open.

I'll have to find a translator to understand any of the French conversation though. I'm not bilingual, me bad Canadian, I know
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 Posted 04/09/2011  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And much thanks to you too for that thread link Ikandiggit
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 Posted 04/09/2011  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So, my coins have a lot of the clumps of metals and little struck throughs and cracks etc from die deteriorations.

Should I be keeping them or spending them? I don't know if these types of extra metals and signs of die deteriorations are "collectible" and worth a couple of dollars to collectors or not. Are they?
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 Posted 04/09/2011  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikandiggit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd keep the most extreme examples.
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 Posted 04/09/2011  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe I'll keep some of them just to include in the next contest I do for anyone who'd like samples.
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 Posted 04/10/2011  01:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add uncle al to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I purchased several rolls of these quarters and have found many deficiencies in the product. But I would like to thank ikandiggit for his photos of how to set up for taking good pics, I think mine have improved greatly since seeing your set up. thanks again. If you wish, I could find some errors on these quarters and show them.
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